1 00:00:26,459 --> 00:00:30,562 And with that movie 2001, you're projecting us into the 21st century. 2 00:00:30,564 --> 00:00:32,564 I brought along my son Jonathan-- hi. 3 00:00:32,566 --> 00:00:36,235 Who in the year 2001 will be the same age as I am now. 4 00:00:36,237 --> 00:00:41,373 Maybe he will be better adjusted to this kind of world that you're trying to portray. 5 00:00:41,375 --> 00:00:43,342 The big difference, when he grows up-- 6 00:00:43,344 --> 00:00:45,544 in fact, if we wanted to wait till the year 2001-- 7 00:00:45,546 --> 00:00:48,680 he will have in his own house 8 00:00:48,682 --> 00:00:51,917 not a computer as big as this, but at least a console 9 00:00:51,919 --> 00:00:55,554 through which he can talk to his friendly local computer 10 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:57,923 and get all the information he needs for his everyday life, 11 00:00:57,925 --> 00:01:01,360 like his bank statements, his theater reservations, 12 00:01:01,362 --> 00:01:06,899 all the information you need in the course of living in a complex modern society. 13 00:01:06,901 --> 00:01:11,036 This will be in a compact form in his own house. 14 00:01:11,038 --> 00:01:14,239 He'll have a television screen, like these here, and a keyboard. 15 00:01:14,241 --> 00:01:16,708 And he'll talk to the computer and get information from it. 16 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:19,411 And he'll take it as much for granted as we take the telephone. 17 00:01:19,413 --> 00:01:22,748 I wonder, though, what sort of a life would it be like in social terms? 18 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:25,417 I mean, if our whole life is built around the computer, 19 00:01:25,419 --> 00:01:27,553 do we become a computer-dependent society? 20 00:01:27,555 --> 00:01:30,589 In some ways, but they will also enrich our society 21 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:34,359 because it will make it possible for us to live, really, anywhere we like. 22 00:01:34,361 --> 00:01:39,131 Any businessman and executive could live almost anywhere on earth 23 00:01:39,133 --> 00:01:41,900 and still do his business through a device like this. 24 00:01:41,902 --> 00:01:45,404 And this is a wonderful thing. It means we won't have to be stuck in cities. 25 00:01:45,406 --> 00:01:48,841 We'll be able to live out in the country or wherever we please. 26 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,881 Screen says it's an unimplemented trap. 27 00:01:55,883 --> 00:01:58,383 But the error code is wrong. It's a system error. 28 00:01:58,385 --> 00:02:00,619 So what's the upshot? It's not gonna say hello. 29 00:02:00,621 --> 00:02:02,154 It absolutely is gonna say hello. 30 00:02:02,156 --> 00:02:04,490 It's nobody's fault. It's a system error. You built the voice demo. 31 00:02:04,492 --> 00:02:06,558 The voice demo is flaky. Keep your voices down. 32 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,627 I've been telling you that for-- this thing is overbuilt. 33 00:02:08,629 --> 00:02:10,963 It worked last night. It worked the night before that. 34 00:02:10,965 --> 00:02:12,397 It worked three hours ago. 35 00:02:12,399 --> 00:02:15,300 It's not working now, so just skip over the voice demo. Fuck you. 36 00:02:15,302 --> 00:02:16,735 Everything else is working. Shh. 37 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:18,337 Skip over the voice demo. 38 00:02:18,339 --> 00:02:19,972 We need it to say hello. 39 00:02:19,974 --> 00:02:23,475 You're not hearing me. It's not going to say hello. Just fix it. 40 00:02:23,477 --> 00:02:24,843 Fix it? Yeah. 41 00:02:27,481 --> 00:02:28,647 In 40 minutes? Fix it. 42 00:02:28,649 --> 00:02:30,482 I can't. Who's the person who can? 43 00:02:30,484 --> 00:02:32,818 I'm the person who can, and I can't. 44 00:02:35,021 --> 00:02:36,989 How bad are you saying? It's pretty bad. 45 00:02:36,991 --> 00:02:40,259 I don't know what that means. It means the demo is more than likely gonna crash. 46 00:02:40,261 --> 00:02:41,760 You have to keep your voices down. 47 00:02:41,762 --> 00:02:43,795 Joel pforzheimer is sitting out in the house. 48 00:02:43,797 --> 00:02:46,265 I don't care if-- who's Joel pforzheimer? 49 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:47,833 Gq. 50 00:02:47,835 --> 00:02:50,469 He's been shadowing you for a week. Did you notice? 51 00:02:50,471 --> 00:02:52,304 Just look like everything's fine. 52 00:02:52,306 --> 00:02:53,772 He's sitting out in the house. 53 00:02:54,807 --> 00:02:55,908 Hey. 54 00:02:57,610 --> 00:03:00,112 What are you guys saying? 55 00:03:00,114 --> 00:03:03,549 Some kind of race condition, but we haven't been able to track it down yet. 56 00:03:03,551 --> 00:03:05,150 Is the synthesizer sampling fast enough? 57 00:03:05,152 --> 00:03:07,819 No, so the rates are off and it keeps crashing. 58 00:03:07,821 --> 00:03:10,789 It's 20 seconds out of a two-hour launch. Why not just cut it? 59 00:03:10,791 --> 00:03:12,558 We can't cut it. Yeah, you just cut it. 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,328 Two days ago, we ran a super bowl ad that could've won the Oscar for best short film. 61 00:03:16,330 --> 00:03:19,798 There are more people who can tell you about the ad than can tell you who won the game. 62 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,634 I understand, but the ad said the Mac was gonna save the world. 63 00:03:22,636 --> 00:03:24,803 It didn't say it was gonna say hello. 64 00:03:24,805 --> 00:03:26,538 We open the house in five. 65 00:03:26,540 --> 00:03:29,141 Don't open the house. 66 00:03:29,143 --> 00:03:30,576 We're taking a quick break. 67 00:03:30,578 --> 00:03:32,344 Part of the problem is-- what? 68 00:03:32,346 --> 00:03:36,215 We can recompile, but if it's a hardware problem, we can't get into the back. 69 00:03:36,217 --> 00:03:37,916 Why not? 70 00:03:37,918 --> 00:03:40,719 Do you wanna tell her or should I? Don't start with me, man. 71 00:03:40,721 --> 00:03:43,188 Why can't he get into the machine? You need special tools. 72 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:45,691 What kind of special tools? Just take a screwdriver. 73 00:03:45,693 --> 00:03:47,726 He didn't want users to be able to open it. 74 00:03:47,728 --> 00:03:50,696 You need special tools. 75 00:03:50,698 --> 00:03:52,431 Is this for real? 76 00:03:52,433 --> 00:03:55,267 There are a hundred engineers walking around here. None of them have the tools? 77 00:03:55,269 --> 00:03:57,903 In fairness, not many of them were issued the tools. 78 00:03:57,905 --> 00:04:02,107 What about you? I left them at the office. It was 3:00 am when i-- 79 00:04:02,109 --> 00:04:03,609 oh, Jesus Christ. 80 00:04:03,611 --> 00:04:05,711 - Cut "hello." - No. 81 00:04:05,713 --> 00:04:07,946 What's the first rule of a launch? It's not gonna crash. 82 00:04:07,948 --> 00:04:09,414 It just did. 83 00:04:09,416 --> 00:04:10,515 Andy! 84 00:04:10,517 --> 00:04:12,351 Which one? 85 00:04:12,353 --> 00:04:14,553 The other Andy. You're right there. Why would I be calling out? 86 00:04:14,555 --> 00:04:16,221 He needs to talk to you. Yeah. 87 00:04:16,223 --> 00:04:19,224 The exit signs need to be off or we're not gonna get a full blackout. 88 00:04:19,226 --> 00:04:21,927 We've spoken to the building manager and the fire marshal. And? 89 00:04:21,929 --> 00:04:24,029 There's no way they're gonna let us turn the exit signs off. 90 00:04:24,031 --> 00:04:26,231 I'll pay whatever the fine is. 91 00:04:26,233 --> 00:04:28,433 The fine is they're gonna come in and tell everyone to leave. 92 00:04:28,435 --> 00:04:30,769 You explained to the fire marshal that we're in here changing the world? 93 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:34,740 I did, but unless we can also change the properties of fire, he doesn't care. 94 00:04:34,742 --> 00:04:37,276 Steve-- if a fire causes a stampede to the unmarked exits, 95 00:04:37,278 --> 00:04:39,778 it'll have been well worth it for those who survive. 96 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:42,281 For those who don't, less so, but still pretty good. 97 00:04:42,283 --> 00:04:45,150 - Look, i-- - I need it to go black. Real black. 98 00:04:45,152 --> 00:04:48,086 Get rid of the exit signs and don't let me know how you did it. 99 00:04:48,088 --> 00:04:50,022 Fix the voice demo. 100 00:04:53,893 --> 00:04:56,295 You need special tools to open the Mac? 101 00:04:56,297 --> 00:04:58,263 You knew it was a closed system. 102 00:04:58,265 --> 00:05:00,799 I didn't know literally. Jesus. 103 00:05:00,801 --> 00:05:03,068 And if you keep alienating people for no reason, 104 00:05:03,070 --> 00:05:05,604 there's gonna be no one left for it to say hello to. 105 00:05:05,606 --> 00:05:07,239 It's not for no reason. 106 00:05:07,241 --> 00:05:10,475 We blow this and IBM will own the next 50 years like a Batman villain. 107 00:05:10,477 --> 00:05:13,912 Remember the phone company? That's what bell was called, "the phone company." 108 00:05:13,914 --> 00:05:15,981 IBM will be the computer company. 109 00:05:15,983 --> 00:05:18,617 Ten years later they'll be the information company, 110 00:05:18,619 --> 00:05:21,119 and that's very bad for the human race. 111 00:05:21,121 --> 00:05:23,855 So we don't have time to be polite or realistic, 112 00:05:23,857 --> 00:05:26,325 'cause if we are, this company's next product launch 113 00:05:26,327 --> 00:05:28,026 will be held in front of 26 people 114 00:05:28,028 --> 00:05:30,829 and a stringer from the Alameda county shopper's guide. 115 00:05:30,831 --> 00:05:32,964 We haven't advertised the voice software. 116 00:05:32,966 --> 00:05:36,835 We could pull it out of the demo and no one would be disappointed. 117 00:05:36,837 --> 00:05:38,970 Do you want to try being reasonable, 118 00:05:38,972 --> 00:05:42,708 just, you know, see what it feels like? 119 00:05:44,644 --> 00:05:47,679 Okay. Pull the voice demo. 120 00:05:49,015 --> 00:05:49,948 Thank you. 121 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:52,117 And then cancel the launch. 122 00:05:52,119 --> 00:05:53,852 I see. You just tricked me a little. 123 00:05:53,854 --> 00:05:57,289 You can tell me how unimportant it is, but if the computer doesn't say hello, 124 00:05:57,291 --> 00:06:00,959 then neither will John sculley, who I promise you agrees with me. 125 00:06:00,961 --> 00:06:04,529 Sculley's not gonna cancel the launch 'cause he's not insane. 126 00:06:04,531 --> 00:06:06,832 He's also not a hack, and when it comes to the macintosh, 127 00:06:06,834 --> 00:06:08,467 he's gonna do what I ask him to do. 128 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:11,136 What's in this box? Nothing you need to worry about. 129 00:06:11,138 --> 00:06:12,537 Don't even open it. 130 00:06:12,539 --> 00:06:14,573 What the fuck? 131 00:06:14,575 --> 00:06:16,375 Why is there a carton of-- who did this? 132 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:19,411 Somebody thought-- who? 133 00:06:19,413 --> 00:06:23,515 Doesn't matter. Thought it would be a good idea to have copies of that time cover 134 00:06:23,517 --> 00:06:25,250 available at everyone's seat. 135 00:06:25,252 --> 00:06:28,253 It was nipped in the bud and all the copies are being taken out of the building. 136 00:06:28,255 --> 00:06:29,821 So problem solved. 137 00:06:29,823 --> 00:06:32,724 This isn't a macintosh. I understand. 138 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:34,860 Somebody thought it would be a good idea to, like, 139 00:06:34,862 --> 00:06:39,564 enthusiastically hand over copies of time with a not-a-macintosh on the cover 140 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:41,366 at the launch of the macintosh? 141 00:06:41,368 --> 00:06:43,235 What are they handing out at hewlett-packard? 142 00:06:43,237 --> 00:06:45,237 A bushel of apples with my face on them? 143 00:06:45,239 --> 00:06:48,740 I'm sure the thinking was that since the computer is man of the year 144 00:06:48,742 --> 00:06:50,342 that that's good for our business, 145 00:06:50,344 --> 00:06:52,577 but like I said, I'm having them removed from the building. 146 00:06:52,579 --> 00:06:56,047 What I'd like you to do with them is to take them, all 2,600 copies, 147 00:06:56,049 --> 00:06:57,783 and stack them on kottke's desk 148 00:06:57,785 --> 00:06:59,918 and tell him Steve says, "happy new year to you." 149 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:00,919 Okay. 150 00:07:00,921 --> 00:07:03,121 I gave time magazine full access. 151 00:07:03,123 --> 00:07:05,757 The whole campus: Bandley, apple ii, Lisa. 152 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:10,395 I gave him sculley, markkula. I gave him woz. I gave him everybody. 153 00:07:10,397 --> 00:07:13,598 What should I call the person who thought it'd be a good idea to hand these out? 154 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,901 I'm not telling you who it was. 155 00:07:15,903 --> 00:07:18,370 It was done without malice. It's been taken care of. 156 00:07:18,372 --> 00:07:21,206 You have a half hour and we have things to talk about. 157 00:07:21,208 --> 00:07:22,774 Like what? 158 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:26,611 Like a million in the first 90 days. 159 00:07:26,613 --> 00:07:28,113 Joanna-- 20,000 a month after that. 160 00:07:28,115 --> 00:07:29,781 Look. Those are the forecasts. I'm begging-- 161 00:07:29,783 --> 00:07:35,387 this is my field. I'm begging you to manage expectations out there. 162 00:07:35,389 --> 00:07:39,791 I'm fanning expectations. We're not gonna sell a million in the first 90 days. 163 00:07:39,793 --> 00:07:43,562 Everyone, everyone, everyone, 164 00:07:43,564 --> 00:07:46,264 everyone is waiting for the Mac. 165 00:07:46,266 --> 00:07:47,999 Maybe. 166 00:07:48,001 --> 00:07:50,902 But what happens when they find out that for 2,495, 167 00:07:50,904 --> 00:07:53,004 there's nothing you can do with it? 168 00:07:54,006 --> 00:07:56,408 We were competitive at $1,500, 169 00:07:56,410 --> 00:08:00,312 but once you replaced the motorola 6809 with the 68000-- 170 00:08:00,314 --> 00:08:03,982 which is what supports menus, windows, point and click, high-res graphics-- 171 00:08:03,984 --> 00:08:07,285 yeah, 'cause everyone needs rectangles with rounded corners. 172 00:08:07,287 --> 00:08:11,423 Coach lands on the runway at the exact same time as first class. 173 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,596 I don't have the first fucking idea what that means, 174 00:08:17,598 --> 00:08:19,531 but this is how it got to $2,500, 175 00:08:19,533 --> 00:08:22,968 which is the price point on the PC, which can do a lot more! 176 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:26,304 Who's gonna want a PC? What idiot is gonna want-- 177 00:08:26,306 --> 00:08:29,708 if I wanna tell you there's a spot on your shirt, i point to the spot. 178 00:08:29,710 --> 00:08:33,645 I don't say there's a spot 14 centimeters down from the collar 179 00:08:33,647 --> 00:08:35,614 and three centimeters to the right of the second button 180 00:08:35,616 --> 00:08:38,783 while I try to remember what the command is for club soda. 181 00:08:38,785 --> 00:08:40,785 That's not how a person's mind works. 182 00:08:40,787 --> 00:08:45,524 If the goal was ease of use, maybe you should've given it some memory. 183 00:08:45,526 --> 00:08:48,326 You can complain about memory or you can complain about price, 184 00:08:48,328 --> 00:08:51,396 but you can't do both at the same time. 185 00:08:51,398 --> 00:08:53,365 Memory is what costs money. 186 00:08:53,367 --> 00:08:55,700 I'm glad you're telling me your feelings about the Mac now 187 00:08:55,702 --> 00:08:57,502 because we have a half hour left. 188 00:08:57,504 --> 00:08:59,037 We can redesign it. 189 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:01,706 I'm just asking you to manage expectations. 190 00:09:01,708 --> 00:09:03,675 Look at their faces when they see what it is. 191 00:09:03,677 --> 00:09:07,078 They won't know what they're looking at or why they like it, 192 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,147 but they'll know they want it. 193 00:09:09,149 --> 00:09:11,850 Not instantly. When people heard rite of spring, 194 00:09:11,852 --> 00:09:14,152 they tore the chairs out of the theater. 195 00:09:14,154 --> 00:09:15,554 They didn't buy the record. 196 00:09:15,556 --> 00:09:18,323 Rite of spring happens to be the most revolutionary 197 00:09:18,325 --> 00:09:19,891 and provocative symphony of the last century. 198 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:22,327 Ballet. It was a ballet. 199 00:09:22,329 --> 00:09:26,164 But Igor stravinsky didn't say he was gonna sell 20,000 units a month. 200 00:09:26,166 --> 00:09:28,700 I don't know why we're talking about stravinsky 201 00:09:28,702 --> 00:09:32,938 when what I care about is Dan kottke sodomizing me in time magazine. 202 00:09:32,940 --> 00:09:36,274 Look. Obviously-- 203 00:09:37,343 --> 00:09:39,277 let me say this to you. 204 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:42,414 Obviously, Daniel didn't think he was doing anything wrong. 205 00:09:42,416 --> 00:09:44,983 By talking to time about it? Yeah. 206 00:09:45,885 --> 00:09:47,919 I don't know what that means. 207 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:50,589 You said, when you told me the story-- 208 00:09:50,591 --> 00:09:52,724 you said you said to Dan, 209 00:09:52,726 --> 00:09:55,627 "did time magazine ask you if I had a daughter named Lisa?" 210 00:09:55,629 --> 00:09:56,995 And Dan said, "yeah." 211 00:09:58,631 --> 00:10:02,233 My point was that he answered you simply and honestly 212 00:10:02,235 --> 00:10:04,402 because he didn't think he'd done anything wrong. 213 00:10:04,404 --> 00:10:09,107 Except, Joanna-- except I don't have a daughter named Lisa. 214 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:13,044 And this story is now about how I'm denying paternity and took a blood test. 215 00:10:13,046 --> 00:10:16,448 And that's why there's a picture of-- I don't know what the fuck that is. 216 00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:18,817 That's why there's a picture of a PC on the cover 217 00:10:18,819 --> 00:10:21,186 instead of a picture of me and the Mac. 218 00:10:22,555 --> 00:10:24,756 I don't know what to tell you. 219 00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:28,593 I was supposed to be time magazine's man of the year. 220 00:10:28,595 --> 00:10:30,629 And then Dan kottke was born. 221 00:10:35,968 --> 00:10:37,936 Well-- what? 222 00:10:37,938 --> 00:10:41,206 She's waiting for you. Who? 223 00:10:42,074 --> 00:10:44,009 Chrisann. Brennan? 224 00:10:44,011 --> 00:10:45,777 They're out in the hall. 225 00:10:45,779 --> 00:10:48,980 They've been sitting in the back of the auditorium since 7:00 this morning. 226 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:51,383 I'm not having a session with chrisann right now. 227 00:10:52,518 --> 00:10:56,154 We issued 335 press credentials for the launch. 228 00:10:56,156 --> 00:10:59,157 Steve, you piss off chrisann, 229 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:02,494 she's gonna stand in the lobby and give 335 interviews, 230 00:11:02,496 --> 00:11:07,232 and you, pal, will be longing for the halcyon days of Dan kottke. 231 00:11:09,001 --> 00:11:12,103 Let me get this over with. 232 00:11:12,105 --> 00:11:14,472 But don't leave. You're gonna stay here. 233 00:11:14,474 --> 00:11:15,974 What? No. I'm not. 234 00:11:15,976 --> 00:11:19,344 No. There's less of a chance of a scene if you stay here. She'll be cool. 235 00:11:19,346 --> 00:11:24,182 I find all this excruciatingly personal and-and-- 236 00:11:24,184 --> 00:11:26,718 i-I'm-- I'm not staying. 237 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,353 No. Come on. 238 00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:31,056 I don't wanna be in a room alone with chrisann. 239 00:11:34,460 --> 00:11:36,428 This is me and you. 240 00:11:40,366 --> 00:11:41,399 Fine. 241 00:11:49,575 --> 00:11:50,608 Hey. 242 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:55,613 Steve. 243 00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:58,183 This is a surprise. 244 00:11:58,185 --> 00:12:00,552 Why don't you come on in? 245 00:12:00,554 --> 00:12:02,287 Thank you. 246 00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:07,392 - You coming too? - Yes, I'm not gonna leave her in the hallway. 247 00:12:07,394 --> 00:12:09,728 Okay. It's a safe hallway, but anyway. 248 00:12:09,730 --> 00:12:12,697 You remember Joanna Hoffman? She's the head of marketing for the Mac. 249 00:12:12,699 --> 00:12:13,965 Good to see you. 250 00:12:15,034 --> 00:12:17,602 Nice to see you. Hello, Lisa. 251 00:12:17,604 --> 00:12:20,605 We've met before, and you told me you like the way I talk, 252 00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:24,242 and that was my favorite thing anyone's ever said to me. 253 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:26,244 You're from Poland. Yes, I am. 254 00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:28,947 - Do you know where that is? - The top of the earth. 255 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:30,915 I think you're thinking of the north pole. 256 00:12:30,917 --> 00:12:32,784 Well, we're a little pressed for time, so-- 257 00:12:32,786 --> 00:12:35,286 - I'll leave you guys alone. - Why do you wanna leave when you just said-- 258 00:12:35,288 --> 00:12:37,288 I'm gonna check in with hertzfeld. 259 00:12:44,964 --> 00:12:47,465 We're trying to get a computer to say hello, 260 00:12:47,467 --> 00:12:49,934 but right now it's being very shy. 261 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:51,870 Would you come help me? Is that okay? 262 00:12:51,872 --> 00:12:53,605 Sure. 263 00:12:53,607 --> 00:12:55,940 Thank you. 264 00:12:55,942 --> 00:12:57,876 My dad named a computer after me. 265 00:12:57,878 --> 00:13:00,311 I'm not your-- 266 00:13:01,413 --> 00:13:04,716 actually, do you know what a coincidence is, Lisa? 267 00:13:04,718 --> 00:13:06,684 No. 268 00:13:08,254 --> 00:13:11,289 Like if you met someone. 269 00:13:11,291 --> 00:13:13,658 You made a new friend and her name was Lisa too. 270 00:13:13,660 --> 00:13:15,493 That would be a coincidence. 271 00:13:15,495 --> 00:13:18,496 "Lisa" stands for "local integrated systems architecture." 272 00:13:18,498 --> 00:13:20,732 L-i-s-a. 273 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,202 It's a coincidence. 274 00:13:26,405 --> 00:13:28,606 - You about done? - Yeah. 275 00:13:28,608 --> 00:13:29,574 Okay. 276 00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:34,379 Come. Let's make that computer say hi. 277 00:13:36,015 --> 00:13:37,916 Go ahead, Lisa. 278 00:13:37,918 --> 00:13:41,119 So it was the other way around. 279 00:13:41,121 --> 00:13:43,454 I was named after the computer? 280 00:13:43,456 --> 00:13:46,791 Nothing was named after anybody. It's a coincidence. 281 00:13:46,793 --> 00:13:48,660 Come on. 282 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:55,466 What's the matter with you? 283 00:13:55,468 --> 00:13:57,502 What's the matter with you? Why are you telling her these things? 284 00:13:57,504 --> 00:13:59,470 Why are you still telling her I'm her father? 285 00:13:59,472 --> 00:14:01,339 - A judge told her you're her father. - No, he didn't. 286 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:03,174 Where the hell do you get off telling time magazine 287 00:14:03,176 --> 00:14:05,176 I've slept with 28 percent of the men in America? 288 00:14:05,178 --> 00:14:07,145 That's not-- where do you get off? 289 00:14:07,147 --> 00:14:09,614 That's not remotely what I said. 290 00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:14,986 It's right here. 291 00:14:14,988 --> 00:14:16,955 First of all, can I tell you something about time magazine? 292 00:14:16,957 --> 00:14:19,824 I believe it's a training facility for paid assassins. 293 00:14:19,826 --> 00:14:23,194 "Jobs insists"-- i am quoting-- i didn't invent math. 294 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:26,364 "...twenty-eight percent of the male population of the United States 295 00:14:26,366 --> 00:14:28,533 could be the father." 296 00:14:28,535 --> 00:14:32,537 I wasn't saying you've slept with 28% of American men. 297 00:14:32,539 --> 00:14:35,406 I was using an algorithm based on the blood test 298 00:14:35,408 --> 00:14:39,577 which said there was a 94.1% chance that I'm the father. 299 00:14:39,579 --> 00:14:42,847 You're trying to publicly paint me as a slut and a whore. 300 00:14:42,849 --> 00:14:45,216 Believe me, I'm not trying to publicly do anything with you. 301 00:14:45,218 --> 00:14:47,318 Two million people read time. How am I supposed-- 302 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,655 it would be more if they put me on the cover, but Dan kottke decided to kidney-punch me-- 303 00:14:50,657 --> 00:14:53,858 - I applied for welfare yesterday. I'm sorry? 304 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:56,294 - Hello! - I said I applied for welfare yesterday. 305 00:14:57,997 --> 00:15:02,533 The time article said your apple stock was worth $441 million, 306 00:15:02,535 --> 00:15:04,702 and I wanted to ask you how you felt about that. 307 00:15:04,704 --> 00:15:07,505 Well, I feel like apple stock has been dramatically undervalued. 308 00:15:07,507 --> 00:15:09,407 This would be a good time to get in. 309 00:15:09,409 --> 00:15:12,076 Your daughter and her mother-- 310 00:15:12,078 --> 00:15:14,345 chrisann-- are on welfare. 311 00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:17,015 We're living in a hovel in menlo park. 312 00:15:17,017 --> 00:15:18,616 We can't pay the heating bills. 313 00:15:18,618 --> 00:15:21,052 She sleeps in a parka. 314 00:15:21,054 --> 00:15:23,421 Your daughter-- she's not my daughter! 315 00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:26,457 Because, as reported by time magazine, 316 00:15:26,459 --> 00:15:29,427 - I've slept with 28% of the men in America? - No. 317 00:15:29,429 --> 00:15:32,630 All of them, exactly nine months before Lisa was born. 318 00:15:38,270 --> 00:15:40,104 I've got Andy here. 319 00:15:46,812 --> 00:15:48,846 Excuse me. 320 00:15:58,257 --> 00:15:59,457 We're there? 321 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:01,459 - Hey, Chris. - Hey, Andy. 322 00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:03,161 - How are you doin'? - Terrible. 323 00:16:03,163 --> 00:16:04,762 You guys caught up now? 324 00:16:04,764 --> 00:16:07,131 Excuse me for saying hello to my friend, who thinks you're a dick. 325 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,633 I don't think you're a-- we're there? 326 00:16:08,635 --> 00:16:11,669 No. It's got a one-in-six chance of working. Goddamn it. 327 00:16:11,671 --> 00:16:16,474 Well, we're not a pit crew at Daytona. This can't be fixed in seconds. 328 00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:19,310 You didn't have seconds. You had three weeks. 329 00:16:19,312 --> 00:16:22,413 The universe was created in a third of that time. 330 00:16:22,415 --> 00:16:24,749 Well, someday you'll have to tell us how you did it. 331 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,655 Here's what I'm gonna do. 332 00:16:30,657 --> 00:16:34,826 I'm gonna announce the names of everyone who designed the launch demo. 333 00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:37,595 I'm gonna introduce everyone and ask them to stand up. 334 00:16:37,597 --> 00:16:39,964 The bag was designed by Susan kare. 335 00:16:39,966 --> 00:16:43,835 The macintosh font that's scrolling across the screen was designed by Steve capps. 336 00:16:43,837 --> 00:16:47,005 The starry night and skywriting was Bruce horn. 337 00:16:47,007 --> 00:16:52,810 Macpaint, macwrite, Alice, down to the calculator. 338 00:16:52,812 --> 00:16:55,680 And then I'm gonna say the voice demo that didn't work 339 00:16:55,682 --> 00:16:58,016 was designed by Andy hertzfeld. 340 00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:06,324 Steve-- 341 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:09,360 five-in-six is your chance of surviving the first round of Russian roulette, 342 00:17:09,362 --> 00:17:11,195 and you've reversed those odds. 343 00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:13,464 So unless you wanna be disgraced in front of your friends, 344 00:17:13,466 --> 00:17:16,701 family, colleagues, stockholders and the press, 345 00:17:16,703 --> 00:17:18,403 I wouldn't stand here arguing. 346 00:17:18,405 --> 00:17:21,873 I'd go try and get some more bullets out of the gun. 347 00:17:21,875 --> 00:17:23,741 Do it, Andy! 348 00:17:28,647 --> 00:17:30,214 Stop. You. 349 00:17:30,216 --> 00:17:32,083 What size shirt do you wear? Me? 350 00:17:32,085 --> 00:17:34,719 Does anyone know what size shirt he wears? What size shirt I wear? 351 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:37,021 Does anyone know where the closest psychiatrist is? 352 00:17:37,023 --> 00:17:39,857 The disk fits in your pocket. 353 00:17:39,859 --> 00:17:42,393 I need a shirt with a breast pocket. I can take it out onstage. 354 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,028 A shirt? The disk! 355 00:17:44,030 --> 00:17:47,031 I need a white shirt in my size with a breast pocket. 356 00:17:47,033 --> 00:17:50,168 Yes. Which one of the no stores that are open at 8:45 357 00:17:50,170 --> 00:17:53,771 do you want me to have someone run to and return from in 15 minutes? 358 00:17:53,773 --> 00:17:57,608 Go out in the lobby, find someone my size who's wearing a white shirt. 359 00:17:57,610 --> 00:18:00,011 Tell them I'll trade them for a free computer, 360 00:18:00,013 --> 00:18:01,712 and they get to keep my shirt. 361 00:18:01,714 --> 00:18:04,048 Does it have to be a white shirt? Is blue okay? 362 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:08,719 No. The Mac is beige, I'm beige, the disk is blue, the shirt has to be white. 363 00:18:08,721 --> 00:18:09,687 Andy? 364 00:18:29,943 --> 00:18:34,745 Hello, I'm macintosh. 365 00:18:34,747 --> 00:18:37,515 Bring me the head of Andy hertzfeld. 366 00:18:38,617 --> 00:18:40,918 I tried to get it to say hello, but it's shy. 367 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,987 Yeah. 368 00:18:42,989 --> 00:18:44,455 So that's it? 369 00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:46,657 That's it. 370 00:18:48,460 --> 00:18:50,094 I don't get it. 371 00:18:50,096 --> 00:18:51,629 I know. 372 00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:53,464 What are people going to do with it? 373 00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:55,133 Lisa, how old are you now? 374 00:18:55,135 --> 00:18:57,301 - You know how old she is. - How old are you, Lisa? 375 00:18:57,303 --> 00:18:58,703 Five. 376 00:19:00,239 --> 00:19:02,039 Come sit here for a minute. 377 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:08,346 Do you know what this is? 378 00:19:08,348 --> 00:19:11,482 It's a computer. It's a computer. 379 00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:13,551 Can I borrow your hand for a second? 380 00:19:15,187 --> 00:19:17,555 Point that arrow and click. 381 00:19:19,858 --> 00:19:22,527 You don't have to, but if you want, you can play with it. 382 00:19:22,529 --> 00:19:25,830 Nothing you can do will break it, so just do whatever you want with it. 383 00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:27,265 What are you doing? 384 00:19:27,267 --> 00:19:30,801 I'm paying you exactly what the court ordered me to pay you. 385 00:19:30,803 --> 00:19:33,671 $385 a month. 386 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:35,640 I'm not the one who decided on that amount. 387 00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:37,508 And I'm asking you how you feel. 388 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:39,143 If you feel all right. 389 00:19:39,145 --> 00:19:42,513 If it feels all right to you that your daughter-- she's not my-- 390 00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:45,183 that your daughter and her mother are on welfare 391 00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:49,187 while you're worth $441 million for making that. 392 00:19:49,189 --> 00:19:52,356 I'm proud to say apple donates computers to underfunded schools, 393 00:19:52,358 --> 00:19:54,992 - and we'll be doing more of the same with the Mac-- - what? 394 00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:57,762 Apple donates millions of dollars' worth of computers to schools. 395 00:19:58,730 --> 00:20:00,798 What does that have to do with-- 396 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,636 imagine an underprivileged kid that has their favorite teacher with them 24 hours. 397 00:20:05,638 --> 00:20:07,538 We're minutes away from being able to do that. 398 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:10,208 In your head, was that an answer to my question? 399 00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:11,876 Tell me the question again. 400 00:20:13,012 --> 00:20:15,079 I wasn't the one who sued you for child support. 401 00:20:15,081 --> 00:20:17,548 - No, let-- - San Mateo county sued you. 402 00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:20,551 No, let me explain what happened, 'cause I have plenty of time right now. 403 00:20:22,222 --> 00:20:24,021 Excuse me. You have a visitor. 404 00:20:24,023 --> 00:20:26,490 Just wanted to say good luck. Hey, chrisann. 405 00:20:26,492 --> 00:20:28,926 Hello, woz. Hang on. 406 00:20:32,899 --> 00:20:35,266 Just wanted to say good luck. Thanks. You too. 407 00:20:35,268 --> 00:20:36,767 It's a big morning. Yeah. 408 00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:38,669 You should see this crowd out there. 409 00:20:38,671 --> 00:20:40,905 This crowd, it's like, um-- 410 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:45,343 I can't really wait for you to come up with a metaphor, man. 411 00:20:45,345 --> 00:20:48,246 Yeah. So, listen, I want to ask you a favor. Yeah? 412 00:20:48,248 --> 00:20:51,215 Can you acknowledge the apple ii team in your remarks? I cannot. 413 00:20:51,217 --> 00:20:52,683 Just an acknowledgement. 414 00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:54,252 Have them stand up. 415 00:20:55,621 --> 00:20:57,755 - We're launching the Mac. - It'd be a morale booster. 416 00:20:57,757 --> 00:20:59,957 Just a mention so they could get a round of applause. 417 00:20:59,959 --> 00:21:02,226 Just a mention. Can we stick a pin in this for a minute? 418 00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:03,628 Sure. Thank you. 419 00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:05,930 Just talking about an acknowledgement for the team. 420 00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:08,132 I've got chrisann in there. I'll see you in a second. 421 00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:09,166 Yep. 422 00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:17,942 That. 423 00:21:17,944 --> 00:21:19,610 What? 424 00:21:19,612 --> 00:21:22,813 You asked me what people are gonna do with it. They're gonna do that. 425 00:21:24,783 --> 00:21:26,884 One of the engineers. 426 00:21:26,886 --> 00:21:28,286 Thank you. 427 00:21:35,961 --> 00:21:37,528 Do you like it? 428 00:21:40,999 --> 00:21:42,133 I'm sorry? 429 00:21:42,135 --> 00:21:44,001 It's an abstract. 430 00:21:44,836 --> 00:21:48,706 You used macpaint. 431 00:21:52,611 --> 00:21:55,313 Push that key and the "s" at the same time. 432 00:21:58,150 --> 00:21:59,917 Now type your name. 433 00:22:10,362 --> 00:22:12,063 Do you know which box says "save"? 434 00:22:13,965 --> 00:22:16,600 Right. Go ahead and click on it. 435 00:22:24,843 --> 00:22:26,444 I'll put some money in your account 436 00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:28,846 and buy you a new house, someplace near a decent school. 437 00:22:29,614 --> 00:22:31,248 Thank you. 438 00:22:32,551 --> 00:22:35,553 Woz wants a minute. 439 00:22:35,555 --> 00:22:38,155 And sculley's asking for you. 440 00:22:38,157 --> 00:22:39,924 We're done? 441 00:22:41,961 --> 00:22:44,095 Could you teach me more things? 442 00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:47,398 On the computer? 443 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,066 Lisa, wait for me in the hall, please. 444 00:22:52,738 --> 00:22:55,139 You can put your coat on in the hall. 445 00:22:55,141 --> 00:22:56,107 Bye, Lisa. 446 00:22:57,509 --> 00:23:00,311 - Bye. - Lisa, in the hall. Now. 447 00:23:00,313 --> 00:23:02,580 I wanna know, when you say you're gonna put money in my account, 448 00:23:02,582 --> 00:23:04,081 how much we're talking about. 449 00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:06,283 It's a school day. She needs to be in school. 450 00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:10,621 I'm gonna give you whatever you need. 451 00:23:27,739 --> 00:23:30,808 Woz wants me to acknowledge the apple ii team. 452 00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:34,211 You must be able to see that she looks like you. 453 00:23:34,213 --> 00:23:36,680 I don't want to insult woz. I just think it's backward-looking 454 00:23:36,682 --> 00:23:38,449 at exactly the wrong moment. 455 00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:41,519 - I know you heard what I said. - I heard what you said, Joanna. 456 00:23:41,521 --> 00:23:44,755 It's just we're about to do this thing. 457 00:23:44,757 --> 00:23:49,927 At 9:41, the planet's gonna shift on its axis nigh and forever. 458 00:23:49,929 --> 00:23:52,596 Two most significant events of the 20th century: 459 00:23:52,598 --> 00:23:55,433 The allies win the war and this. 460 00:23:55,435 --> 00:23:56,901 This. 461 00:23:56,903 --> 00:23:59,270 So maybe right now isn't the very best time to scold me 462 00:23:59,272 --> 00:24:02,139 for not being a better father to a kid who's not my kid. 463 00:24:02,141 --> 00:24:05,276 The test said i-- i don't care what the test said. 464 00:24:05,278 --> 00:24:06,710 I don't care about 94.1% 465 00:24:06,712 --> 00:24:09,280 or the insane algorithm you used to get to 28% of American men. 466 00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:11,415 Buying her a new house. I'm giving her money. 467 00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:14,084 There's a small girl who believes you're her father. 468 00:24:14,086 --> 00:24:17,288 That's all. That's all the math there is. 469 00:24:18,457 --> 00:24:22,126 She believes it. What are you gonna do about that? 470 00:24:22,128 --> 00:24:24,829 God sent his only son on a suicide mission, 471 00:24:24,831 --> 00:24:28,165 but we like him anyway because he made trees. 472 00:24:29,935 --> 00:24:32,770 We're gonna sell a million units in the first 90 days. 473 00:24:32,772 --> 00:24:34,839 20,000 a month after that. 474 00:24:34,841 --> 00:24:37,308 So maybe you could give me a break, Ms. Hoffman? 475 00:25:29,328 --> 00:25:31,328 Woz. Hey. 476 00:25:31,330 --> 00:25:33,864 There's nothing in that vending machine that won't kill you. 477 00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:36,166 Just browsing. Let's take a walk. 478 00:25:36,168 --> 00:25:38,302 - Can I tell you something? - Yeah. 479 00:25:38,304 --> 00:25:41,539 After the meeting in Maui, the apple ii team was upset and angry and down. 480 00:25:41,541 --> 00:25:44,041 Do you know why? Because the apple ii wasn't mentioned even once? 481 00:25:44,043 --> 00:25:46,577 The apple ii wasn't mentioned ev-- 482 00:25:46,579 --> 00:25:48,379 yes, that's it. You have it. Yes. 483 00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:51,515 That wasn't an oversight. They know that. They know it wasn't. 484 00:25:51,517 --> 00:25:53,551 I don't wanna make a big deal out of this-- 485 00:25:53,553 --> 00:25:55,252 that's entirely within your power. 486 00:25:55,254 --> 00:25:57,988 The apple ii is-- the apple ii is what was, my friend. 487 00:25:57,990 --> 00:26:01,592 The apple ii is what pays the bills around here and has for seven years. 488 00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:03,160 And if you embarrass these people, 489 00:26:03,162 --> 00:26:05,896 you are going to see a brain drain at this company, my brother. 490 00:26:05,898 --> 00:26:08,599 Markkula took you off the Lisa, not them and not me, so don't blame-- 491 00:26:08,601 --> 00:26:13,237 markkula took me off the Lisa because of his strong religious objection to making it good. 492 00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:16,073 Now I gave you everything you wanted on the apple ii. 493 00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:17,741 You don't ask for a lot? 494 00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:20,344 There wasn't a single fight you lost. 495 00:26:20,346 --> 00:26:22,780 Do you concede the slots are the reason for the success of the apple ii? 496 00:26:22,782 --> 00:26:24,949 We can't still be talking about the slots. I have a point. 497 00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:27,918 It's been seven years. You're still doing it. You're talking about the slots. 498 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,854 There's something wrong with you. This argument started in the garage. 499 00:26:30,856 --> 00:26:35,593 What are you talking about? Why would you only want two slots? 500 00:26:35,595 --> 00:26:37,595 A printer and a modem. 501 00:26:37,597 --> 00:26:39,263 With eight slots, you-- 502 00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:42,366 this is a huge deal that we were able to add eight slots. 503 00:26:42,368 --> 00:26:45,235 I appreciate the engineering, but it's not what we're doing. 504 00:26:45,237 --> 00:26:46,870 And thank god i won that argument-- woz. 505 00:26:46,872 --> 00:26:49,607 Because the open system is what people love about the machine, 506 00:26:49,609 --> 00:26:51,241 and it's why it sold and still sells. 507 00:26:51,243 --> 00:26:53,811 An open system. We're not doing an open system. 508 00:26:53,813 --> 00:26:57,781 Of course we are. That's what people want, and the breakthrough on the apple ii-- 509 00:26:57,783 --> 00:27:00,618 people don't know what they want until you show it to them. 510 00:27:00,620 --> 00:27:05,456 Serious users want to customize. They wanna modify. They wanna Jack it up. 511 00:27:05,458 --> 00:27:08,892 They want hardware engineers like me to expand its capabilities, okay? 512 00:27:08,894 --> 00:27:10,794 Keyboards for music, better sound board, 513 00:27:10,796 --> 00:27:12,663 better display boards, improved memory cards. 514 00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:15,099 And it's why there are 3,000 people here right now. 515 00:27:15,101 --> 00:27:19,136 The slots are what allowed the apple ii to run, for just one example, visicalc, 516 00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:23,273 which from my guess single-handedly sold between 200,000 and 300,000 machines. 517 00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:26,243 They want slots. They don't get a vote. 518 00:27:26,245 --> 00:27:29,647 When Dylan wrote "shelter from the storm," he didn't ask people to contribute to the lyrics. 519 00:27:29,649 --> 00:27:31,649 Plays don't stop so the playwright can ask the audience 520 00:27:31,651 --> 00:27:33,117 what scene they'd like to see next. 521 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,318 Painters-- hobbyists-- 522 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,655 we're on the verge of a tectonic-- hobbyists? 523 00:27:37,657 --> 00:27:39,256 A printer and a modem. Two slots. 524 00:27:40,959 --> 00:27:42,826 The apple ii team has my affection, 525 00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:46,430 but I'm not loving up a seven-year-old product at the Mac launch. 526 00:27:46,432 --> 00:27:49,667 Computers aren't paintings. Fuck you. 527 00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:53,170 I'm gonna say "fuck you" every time you say that until you either die or stop. 528 00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:54,805 - Steve-- - try it. 529 00:27:54,807 --> 00:27:55,973 Steve. Say it. 530 00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:58,709 - Computers aren't paintings. - Fuck you. 531 00:27:58,711 --> 00:28:01,812 Yes, they are, and what I want is a closed system. 532 00:28:01,814 --> 00:28:05,616 End-to-end control. Completely incompatible with anything. 533 00:28:09,988 --> 00:28:12,523 Computers aren't supposed to have human flaws. 534 00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:15,526 I'm not going to build this one with yours. 535 00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:28,505 Steve! 536 00:28:28,507 --> 00:28:29,673 Hey. 537 00:28:29,675 --> 00:28:33,077 Today is about the macintosh. And the Mac is mine. 538 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:34,812 - I give you that. - Thank you. 539 00:28:34,814 --> 00:28:37,314 I give you that. Just publicly acknowledge the apple ii team 540 00:28:37,316 --> 00:28:38,916 'cause it's the right thing to do. 541 00:28:38,918 --> 00:28:42,386 We'll know soon enough if you are Leonardo Da Vinci or just think you are, 542 00:28:42,388 --> 00:28:44,088 but in the meantime, it would be great-- 543 00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:46,990 in the meantime, the apple ii is done. 544 00:28:46,992 --> 00:28:49,059 Seven years. It was a great run. 545 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:51,161 You should go out in the house and take your seat. 546 00:28:53,598 --> 00:28:56,366 The Mac is jef raskin's. 547 00:28:56,368 --> 00:28:57,868 Say it for me. 548 00:28:57,870 --> 00:28:59,436 Computers aren't-- fuck you. 549 00:28:59,438 --> 00:29:01,405 All right. 550 00:29:05,944 --> 00:29:07,578 Five, six-- 551 00:29:09,247 --> 00:29:10,914 we're there? I need more time. 552 00:29:10,916 --> 00:29:12,950 You can't have it. 20 minutes. 553 00:29:12,952 --> 00:29:15,352 It's 8:58. We can start late. 554 00:29:15,354 --> 00:29:18,088 Hear me. We're a computer company. We can't start late. 555 00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:20,190 Then I have another idea. What? 556 00:29:20,192 --> 00:29:22,793 It's deceptive and borderline unethical. 557 00:29:22,795 --> 00:29:24,895 I'm listening. It'll run on the 512. 558 00:29:24,897 --> 00:29:26,864 - You tested it? - Yeah. 559 00:29:26,866 --> 00:29:31,268 - Wait. You're gonna demo a 128 computer on a 512? - Nobody's gonna know. 560 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:33,904 And you think that's borderline unethical? 561 00:29:33,906 --> 00:29:35,606 Name my other choices, please. 562 00:29:37,108 --> 00:29:40,644 Please. You have to tell me why it's so important for it to say hello. 563 00:29:40,646 --> 00:29:44,748 Hollywood. They made computers scary things. 564 00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:48,285 See how this reminds you of a friendly face, that the disk slot is a goofy grin? 565 00:29:48,287 --> 00:29:52,890 It's warm and it's playful and it needs to say hello. 566 00:29:52,892 --> 00:29:55,292 It needs to say hello because it can. 567 00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,435 We're not committing fraud. 568 00:30:05,437 --> 00:30:08,572 The 512 is gonna ship in under a year. 569 00:30:08,574 --> 00:30:11,208 Will you absolve me of your eastern European disapproval? 570 00:30:13,278 --> 00:30:17,581 The computer in 2001 said hello all the time and it still scared the shit out of me. 571 00:30:17,583 --> 00:30:19,416 Absolve me. 572 00:30:20,852 --> 00:30:23,520 Just for this. 573 00:30:23,522 --> 00:30:25,923 And just for now. 574 00:30:25,925 --> 00:30:31,562 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome founding board member Mike markkula. 575 00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:40,404 All right. Okay. 576 00:30:41,606 --> 00:30:44,107 Go make a dent in the universe, Steven. 577 00:30:44,109 --> 00:30:46,476 See you in a couple hours. 578 00:30:46,478 --> 00:30:49,112 And I'm going to take us through the formal part of the meeting, 579 00:30:49,114 --> 00:30:50,647 the legal part, if you will. 580 00:30:50,649 --> 00:30:54,184 - Thank merciful god. - The cavalry's shown up. 581 00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:57,354 I hear you've been worse than usual this morning. I didn't think that was possible. 582 00:30:57,356 --> 00:31:01,024 So I've been dispatched as the "Steve whisperer." 583 00:31:01,026 --> 00:31:03,527 This is a '55 margaux. 584 00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:07,064 It's 9:00 in the morning. This is a '55 margaux. 585 00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:12,269 Is it my imagination or have you started to dress like me? 586 00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:16,673 It was a bad idea to have markkula open with quarterly reports. 587 00:31:16,675 --> 00:31:18,842 Instead we should have just dropped water on the audience. 588 00:31:18,844 --> 00:31:22,379 You know, just big 10,000-gallon tanks of cold water, dropped from the ceiling. 589 00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:24,214 Save Mike some money on index cards. 590 00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:26,817 Oh, just relax. Why? 591 00:31:26,819 --> 00:31:29,753 I don't know. No one's ever asked me that question. 592 00:31:29,755 --> 00:31:31,722 There you go. 593 00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:40,230 You're the only one who sees the world the same way I do. 594 00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:42,733 No one sees the world the same way you do. 595 00:31:44,335 --> 00:31:46,169 I'm like Julius Caesar, John. 596 00:31:46,171 --> 00:31:48,872 I'm surrounded by enemies. No, you're not. 597 00:31:48,874 --> 00:31:52,009 The board-- oh, the board. The board's behind you. 598 00:31:52,011 --> 00:31:53,777 Only because you see to it they are. 599 00:31:53,779 --> 00:31:55,245 I think it's a good board, 600 00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:58,248 but if you want me to push them out one by one, we can talk about that. 601 00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:00,117 I want you to push them out all at once-- 602 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:02,786 through a window, if it's the nearest exit. 603 00:32:02,788 --> 00:32:04,922 The look on their faces when we showed them the spot. 604 00:32:04,924 --> 00:32:07,858 I couldn't see their faces, 'cause they were banging their heads on the table. 605 00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:11,762 Yeah, yeah. Yesterday, the day after it airs once, 606 00:32:11,764 --> 00:32:14,398 the publisher of adweek calls it the best commercial of all time. 607 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,934 Of all time! And it is. 608 00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:20,737 And if anyone does one better, it's gonna be chiat/day, who the board wanted to replace, 609 00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:23,440 and it's gonna be Lee clow, who the board thought was out of his mind. 610 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:26,209 Ladies and gentlemen, "1984." 611 00:32:26,211 --> 00:32:28,645 The first glorious anniversary 612 00:32:28,647 --> 00:32:31,148 of the information purification directives. 613 00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:35,485 We have created for the first time in all history 614 00:32:35,487 --> 00:32:38,555 a garden of pure ideology 615 00:32:38,557 --> 00:32:41,058 where each worker may bloom, 616 00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:45,629 secure from the pests purveying contradictory thoughts. 617 00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:51,835 Our unification of thoughts is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on earth. 618 00:32:51,837 --> 00:32:53,337 We are one people-- 619 00:32:53,339 --> 00:32:55,005 did we use skinheads as extras? 620 00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:57,607 - A couple of people have told me that. - Yeah. 621 00:32:57,609 --> 00:32:59,810 We paid skinheads? I've got skinheads on my payroll? 622 00:32:59,812 --> 00:33:02,412 They had a look you wanted. The skinheads? 623 00:33:02,414 --> 00:33:05,649 - Yeah. - Okay, let's keep that to ourselves. 624 00:33:06,752 --> 00:33:09,653 We shall prevail. 625 00:33:13,091 --> 00:33:17,928 On January 24th, apple computer will introduce macintosh. 626 00:33:17,930 --> 00:33:20,197 Who else knows? Who else knows what? 627 00:33:20,199 --> 00:33:23,333 That we paid terrorists to be in our TV commercial. John-- 628 00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:26,136 they were wrong about the ad, but they're a good board. Good people. 629 00:33:26,138 --> 00:33:28,805 Their only problem-- their problem is that they're people. 630 00:33:28,807 --> 00:33:33,010 People. The very nature of people is something to be overcome. 631 00:33:33,012 --> 00:33:38,015 When I was running Pepsi, we had a lot of success focusing on 18-to-55-year-olds 632 00:33:38,017 --> 00:33:40,517 who weren't members of violent hate groups. I get it. 633 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,185 You're not surrounded by enemies. 634 00:33:42,187 --> 00:33:44,388 We're almost there. 635 00:33:44,390 --> 00:33:47,190 I'm back and forth on the Dylan. 636 00:33:47,192 --> 00:33:48,625 I might quote a different verse. 637 00:33:48,627 --> 00:33:49,893 What are the choices? 638 00:33:49,895 --> 00:33:52,362 "For the loser now will be later to win," 639 00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:54,631 which is what we have. Mm-hmm. Or? 640 00:33:54,633 --> 00:33:57,401 "Come mothers and fathers throughout the land 641 00:33:57,403 --> 00:33:59,336 and don't criticize what you can't understand. 642 00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:00,971 Your sons and your daughters"-- 643 00:34:00,973 --> 00:34:02,472 "are beyond your command." 644 00:34:02,474 --> 00:34:04,207 I just lost a hundred bucks to Andy hertzfeld. 645 00:34:04,209 --> 00:34:07,044 He said you'd change it to that verse. 646 00:34:07,046 --> 00:34:10,614 We got 45 seconds. I want to use it to ask you a question. 647 00:34:12,250 --> 00:34:16,853 Why do people who are adopted feel like they were rejected instead of selected? 648 00:34:16,855 --> 00:34:18,221 That came out of nowhere. 649 00:34:18,223 --> 00:34:20,390 "Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command. 650 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,526 Your old road is rapidly aging." 651 00:34:22,528 --> 00:34:25,162 So go fuck yourself, because my name is Steve Jobs, 652 00:34:25,164 --> 00:34:26,830 and the times, they are a-changin'. 653 00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:30,000 I don't feel rejected. 654 00:34:30,002 --> 00:34:32,002 You're sure? Very sure. 655 00:34:32,004 --> 00:34:34,571 'Cause it's not like the baby is born and the parents look and say, 656 00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:37,407 "nah, we're not interested in this one." 657 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:38,975 On the other hand, someone did choose you. 658 00:34:44,015 --> 00:34:45,582 It's having no control. 659 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,920 You find out you were out of the loop 660 00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:52,923 when the most crucial events in your life were set in motion. 661 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,928 As long as you have control. 662 00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:01,665 I don't understand people who give it up. 663 00:35:03,568 --> 00:35:05,502 What inspired hertzfeld to make that bet? 664 00:35:06,971 --> 00:35:11,108 He was warning me that being your father figure could be dangerous. 665 00:35:11,110 --> 00:35:14,611 Keep your 100 bucks. I'm sticking with the first verse. 666 00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:15,612 Good. 667 00:35:15,614 --> 00:35:17,948 What the hell does he mean? Nothing. 668 00:35:17,950 --> 00:35:19,516 I'm proud of you. 669 00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:24,221 Thank you, boss. 670 00:35:24,223 --> 00:35:28,125 It's my pleasure to introduce my friend and the ceo of apple, 671 00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:30,060 John sculley. 672 00:35:30,062 --> 00:35:31,628 John? 673 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:33,096 Yeah? 674 00:35:33,098 --> 00:35:35,565 Lisa made a painting on the Mac. 675 00:35:39,637 --> 00:35:43,006 The macintosh, apple's near mythological home computer, 676 00:35:43,008 --> 00:35:46,510 has gotten off to a rocky start in its battle with industry titan IBM. 677 00:35:46,512 --> 00:35:49,813 With sales originally projected to be a million in the first quarter, 678 00:35:49,815 --> 00:35:52,115 apple has sold only 35,000 of the user-friendly machines 679 00:35:52,117 --> 00:35:54,417 in the months since it's been available to customers. 680 00:35:54,419 --> 00:35:55,952 The insistence by Steve Jobs 681 00:35:55,954 --> 00:35:57,821 that it have what's called end-to-end control, 682 00:35:57,823 --> 00:36:02,159 which is a way of saying that it's not compatible with most outside hardware or software, 683 00:36:02,161 --> 00:36:05,428 is the shakespearean flaw in a machine that had potential. 684 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:08,298 Apple computers closed two of its factories today 685 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,000 in the wake of disappointing sales. 686 00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:13,136 Do you know how many macs were sold last month? 500. 687 00:36:13,138 --> 00:36:16,006 In a move that surprised some but not all on wall street, 688 00:36:16,008 --> 00:36:18,508 the board of directors of apple computers voted today 689 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:21,011 to fire its cofounder Steve Jobs. 690 00:36:21,013 --> 00:36:23,046 Did he jump or was he pushed? 691 00:36:23,048 --> 00:36:26,850 His ex-boss, apple ceo John sculley, refused to comment. 692 00:36:26,852 --> 00:36:28,852 However, in an exclusive interview, 693 00:36:28,854 --> 00:36:32,989 Steve wozniak has slammed the integrity of his old friend Steve Jobs. 694 00:36:32,991 --> 00:36:36,126 He calls jobs an insulting and hurtful guy. 695 00:36:36,128 --> 00:36:39,529 Jobs is hitting back with a new company and a new computer. 696 00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:41,665 Apple has a new competitor. 697 00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:44,301 Steve Jobs's black cube is aimed at the education market. 698 00:36:44,303 --> 00:36:46,870 Few people have the ability to make the world wait, 699 00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:50,907 but that is just what jobs is doing with his new company, next. 700 00:36:59,551 --> 00:37:01,418 Focus seems kind of sharp. 701 00:37:01,420 --> 00:37:03,086 On the slide? 702 00:37:03,088 --> 00:37:04,821 The floor. The pin spot. 703 00:37:04,823 --> 00:37:06,856 I think we want a sharp focus. 704 00:37:06,858 --> 00:37:10,227 Don't take it personally. Just not a fan of the circus aesthetic. 705 00:37:10,229 --> 00:37:14,231 All right, let's hold here. We're gonna have to go up and refocus the instruments. 706 00:37:14,233 --> 00:37:16,766 Just one. The 30 is fine. 707 00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:20,070 While we're holding, there are well-wishers in the vip room. 708 00:37:20,072 --> 00:37:21,705 And woz is here. 709 00:37:21,707 --> 00:37:24,507 Steve wozniak. Yes. Thank you very much. 710 00:37:24,509 --> 00:37:26,176 And Andy hertzfeld. 711 00:37:26,178 --> 00:37:28,411 Andy hertzfeld. Thank you. 712 00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:29,980 John sculley is here too. 713 00:37:31,282 --> 00:37:33,250 It's nice that he's here. 714 00:37:33,252 --> 00:37:35,685 Really? I don't think it's very nice at all. 715 00:37:35,687 --> 00:37:38,088 You have to see them. They wanna pay their respects. 716 00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:40,624 If they were respectful, we'd all still be at apple right now. 717 00:37:40,626 --> 00:37:42,259 Look-- 718 00:37:42,261 --> 00:37:44,394 if they really wished me well, they'd keep to themselves. 719 00:37:44,396 --> 00:37:47,063 Can I tell you something? I don't think they do wish me well. 720 00:37:47,065 --> 00:37:49,399 But I'm all right with that. I'm over apple. 721 00:37:49,401 --> 00:37:51,701 I got over the Mac and woz and sculley, 722 00:37:51,703 --> 00:37:53,603 the same way you get over your high school sweetheart. 723 00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:55,372 Build a new one. 724 00:37:55,374 --> 00:37:57,607 Can I tell you something? Yes. 725 00:37:57,609 --> 00:37:59,376 You said you wouldn't compete with them, 726 00:37:59,378 --> 00:38:02,746 but you designed a computer specifically for the education market, 727 00:38:02,748 --> 00:38:04,814 which they putatively own. 728 00:38:04,816 --> 00:38:08,718 So, I think it's cool they're here. 729 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,954 They're suing me. 730 00:38:10,956 --> 00:38:12,422 Still. 731 00:38:12,424 --> 00:38:14,224 It was nice they came. 732 00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:18,128 They're not being magnanimous. 733 00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:20,130 They want it to look like an amicable divorce. 734 00:38:20,132 --> 00:38:22,966 History doesn't remember Joe DiMaggio kindly for dumping Marilyn. 735 00:38:22,968 --> 00:38:24,267 Steve? 736 00:38:26,071 --> 00:38:27,804 What's your problem? 737 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:31,074 I don't know, but I'm sure it can be traced back to you. 738 00:38:31,076 --> 00:38:34,644 You know, I'm the one who has to explain you to people. 739 00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:37,681 $100,000 to Paul rand for a corporate logo 740 00:38:37,683 --> 00:38:40,450 when we didn't even know what our company made. 741 00:38:40,452 --> 00:38:43,987 A $650,000 mold for the cube, 742 00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:47,123 because god forbid the angles be 90.1 instead of 90. 743 00:38:47,125 --> 00:38:50,160 I forbid the angles to be 90.1 instead of 90. 744 00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:52,629 That box could be on display at the guggenheim. 745 00:38:52,631 --> 00:38:54,931 Don't give them reason to say to the press 746 00:38:54,933 --> 00:38:56,833 you have a chip on your shoulder. 747 00:38:56,835 --> 00:38:58,535 Will you do that for me? 748 00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:00,303 I don't have a chip on my shoulder. 749 00:39:00,305 --> 00:39:01,838 Okay, okay. 750 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,475 But don't give them a reason to say you do. 751 00:39:05,477 --> 00:39:07,110 I don't. 752 00:39:07,112 --> 00:39:09,179 That's the right attitude. That's not an attitude. 753 00:39:09,181 --> 00:39:11,514 They're gonna call me back in a minute to look at the light. 754 00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:13,717 Get one out of the way. Fine! 755 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,019 Yeah? Yeah. 756 00:39:17,321 --> 00:39:19,556 One more thing. Sure. 757 00:39:19,558 --> 00:39:21,958 No questions from the press after. 758 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,227 No-- why? 759 00:39:24,229 --> 00:39:27,330 Until I have better answers, no press avail. 760 00:39:27,332 --> 00:39:30,900 Somebody asks where I am, you just saw me, and I'll be right back. 761 00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:34,204 Okay. 762 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:38,708 Who do you want first? 763 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:41,378 Bring me the face of Steve wozniak. 764 00:39:50,321 --> 00:39:52,389 Hang on. 765 00:39:53,557 --> 00:39:56,092 I thought you went to school. Hang on. 766 00:39:56,094 --> 00:39:58,762 You were supposed to go to school an hour ago. I thought you left. 767 00:39:58,764 --> 00:40:01,231 I didn't wake up my mom on time this morning. 768 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:02,999 It's happened before too. 769 00:40:03,001 --> 00:40:07,070 I wake up with the alarm and then I get dressed and eat breakfast, 770 00:40:07,072 --> 00:40:09,672 but sometimes I forget to see what time it is after that. 771 00:40:09,674 --> 00:40:12,509 - Why doesn't your mom just set her own alarm clock? - It's one of my chores. 772 00:40:12,511 --> 00:40:15,745 I don't understand what that has to do with why you're still-- 773 00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:17,113 where's your mother? 774 00:40:17,115 --> 00:40:19,249 She went to find a pay phone. 775 00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:21,117 An hour ago, she said-- 776 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:22,919 you don't have to raise your hand. 777 00:40:22,921 --> 00:40:25,622 You said it was off by a little. It is. 778 00:40:25,624 --> 00:40:27,624 - I just measured it. - Joanna-- 779 00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:29,592 exactly a foot on all four sides. 780 00:40:29,594 --> 00:40:31,261 There are six sides. 781 00:40:31,263 --> 00:40:33,396 But you're not supposed to be here right now. 782 00:40:33,398 --> 00:40:36,466 We know if four of the sides are equal to each other, 783 00:40:36,468 --> 00:40:38,435 the other two must be equal as well. 784 00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:42,372 The top, bottom, right and left 785 00:40:42,374 --> 00:40:44,574 are about a millimeter shorter than the front and back. 786 00:40:44,576 --> 00:40:46,209 They're not. I measured them. 787 00:40:46,211 --> 00:40:48,611 Lisa, I'm kind of an expert in design. 788 00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:51,748 And that's a 20-cent ruler. You think there's a chance it could be off? 789 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:55,418 If I had another ruler, i would measure this ruler, but I really doubt it's off. 790 00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:59,289 When your mother comes back, you have to go to school. Because it's a ruler! 791 00:40:59,291 --> 00:41:00,824 Why is it off? 792 00:41:00,826 --> 00:41:02,492 Did you hear what I just said? Yes. 793 00:41:02,494 --> 00:41:04,727 Because sometimes it seems like you just keep saying what you want 794 00:41:04,729 --> 00:41:06,396 without listening. 795 00:41:12,269 --> 00:41:13,837 I'm listening. 796 00:41:15,072 --> 00:41:17,907 Is there something you need? No. 797 00:41:21,445 --> 00:41:22,979 Why isn't it a perfect cube? 798 00:41:22,981 --> 00:41:25,215 You've asked me before. I forget what it is. 799 00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:28,651 It's an optical anomaly. 800 00:41:28,653 --> 00:41:31,654 To the human eye, a perfect cube doesn't look like a cube, 801 00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:34,324 so we made it roughly a millimeter shorter than a foot on two sides. 802 00:41:34,326 --> 00:41:35,792 What's an anomaly? 803 00:41:35,794 --> 00:41:37,627 You've asked me that before too. 804 00:41:37,629 --> 00:41:39,829 I don't know why you keep doing that. 805 00:41:42,867 --> 00:41:45,034 It's an exception. Something that doesn't fit a pattern. 806 00:41:46,204 --> 00:41:48,304 You have to go to school. Come in! 807 00:41:50,008 --> 00:41:52,275 I think you two have met. 808 00:41:52,277 --> 00:41:53,810 Hello, old friend. 809 00:41:53,812 --> 00:41:56,880 - You look well. - So do you. So do you. 810 00:41:56,882 --> 00:42:00,850 And they're telling me George is ready for you to look at the focus. 811 00:42:00,852 --> 00:42:02,485 Take a walk with me. 812 00:42:02,487 --> 00:42:03,987 Is this Lisa? Yeah. 813 00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:05,855 - This can't be Lisa. - It is. 814 00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:07,857 Lisa's this big. They get taller. Come on. 815 00:42:07,859 --> 00:42:09,726 - Do you remember me? - She doesn't. 816 00:42:09,728 --> 00:42:11,694 I'm your dad's friend Steve wozniak. 817 00:42:11,696 --> 00:42:14,964 I apologize. I don't remember you. 818 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:17,367 You're very polite. 819 00:42:17,369 --> 00:42:19,002 - Woz? - Yeah. 820 00:42:19,004 --> 00:42:20,803 - Chrisann's at a pay phone. - Would you find her? 821 00:42:20,805 --> 00:42:21,871 Yeah. 822 00:42:21,873 --> 00:42:23,573 Good turnout. 823 00:42:23,575 --> 00:42:25,141 - Great turnout. - Yeah. 824 00:42:25,143 --> 00:42:28,044 "Insanely great." Insanely great. 825 00:42:28,046 --> 00:42:30,413 This is the first time we haven't played for the same team. 826 00:42:30,415 --> 00:42:32,882 It's like you're releasing your first solo album. 827 00:42:32,884 --> 00:42:35,818 I, uh-- I appreciate your inviting me to the launch. 828 00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:37,420 I just want to wipe the slate clean. 829 00:42:37,422 --> 00:42:39,989 That's exactly what I want. That's why I came backstage. 830 00:42:39,991 --> 00:42:42,659 I want you to know, um, I'll be out there with you. 831 00:42:42,661 --> 00:42:45,094 Any chance I can get you to go out there instead of me? 832 00:42:45,096 --> 00:42:46,863 I love you, Steve. 833 00:42:46,865 --> 00:42:48,398 I love you too, woz. 834 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,367 You know, some things were said. 835 00:42:51,369 --> 00:42:53,336 - They were. - They were said in public. 836 00:42:53,338 --> 00:42:56,406 They were published. Were you pressured to do it? 837 00:42:56,408 --> 00:42:58,241 Was I what? 838 00:42:58,243 --> 00:43:03,913 Check it out. It's the orchestra pit for the San Francisco opera. 839 00:43:03,915 --> 00:43:06,249 Was I pressured to do it? 840 00:43:06,251 --> 00:43:09,385 I once met seiji ozawa at tanglewood. 841 00:43:09,387 --> 00:43:11,688 A thunderous conductor. 842 00:43:11,690 --> 00:43:13,790 Ungodly artfulness and nuance. 843 00:43:13,792 --> 00:43:18,528 And I asked him what exactly a conductor does that a metronome can't. 844 00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:21,230 - Surprisingly, he-- - he didn't beat the living shit out of you? 845 00:43:21,232 --> 00:43:25,735 That's right. No, he said, "the musicians play their instruments. 846 00:43:25,737 --> 00:43:27,604 I play the orchestra." 847 00:43:27,606 --> 00:43:30,907 That feels like something that sounds good, but doesn't mean anything. 848 00:43:30,909 --> 00:43:35,078 Markkula, sculley-- did they ask you to slag me off in the press? 849 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,113 I had reason to be angry. 850 00:43:37,115 --> 00:43:38,781 Did they? Absolutely not. 851 00:43:38,783 --> 00:43:40,316 But they asked you to talk. 852 00:43:40,318 --> 00:43:42,085 Apple was under siege. You'd just left the company. 853 00:43:42,087 --> 00:43:43,753 Someone had to talk to the press. 854 00:43:43,755 --> 00:43:46,022 I'm right here, woz. The company left me. 855 00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:49,892 I begged you. I begged you. 856 00:43:49,894 --> 00:43:52,128 The apple ii accounted for 70% of the revenue. 857 00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:54,631 What did you think was gonna happen? 858 00:43:54,633 --> 00:43:58,101 You didn't care enough about the apple ii or the Lisa. 859 00:43:58,103 --> 00:43:59,636 Let's be really clear. 860 00:43:59,638 --> 00:44:02,205 I didn't care at all about the apple ii or the Lisa. 861 00:44:03,974 --> 00:44:06,275 I wasn't pressured to do it. 862 00:44:06,277 --> 00:44:11,381 What I said to the press was an honest, if tempered, reflection of what I believed. 863 00:44:12,683 --> 00:44:14,751 - Woz. - Yeah? 864 00:44:14,753 --> 00:44:17,253 What the fuck is on your wrist? 865 00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:19,188 - You wanna know? - I literally can't wait. 866 00:44:20,457 --> 00:44:22,592 Everyone's gonna be wearing these in 10 years. 867 00:44:22,594 --> 00:44:24,827 It's a nixie watch, made using nixie tubes. 868 00:44:24,829 --> 00:44:27,296 This is actually 40-year-old technology. 869 00:44:27,298 --> 00:44:30,199 Cold cathode tubes. They're operating at 140 volts. 870 00:44:30,201 --> 00:44:32,201 I tilt my wrist 45 degrees, it's right there. 871 00:44:32,203 --> 00:44:33,936 Hours, minutes and seconds. 872 00:44:33,938 --> 00:44:36,472 The way our minds work. Look at that. 873 00:44:36,474 --> 00:44:38,975 Do me a favor. Set the watch ahead like you're on a plane 874 00:44:38,977 --> 00:44:40,543 and just changed time zones. 875 00:44:40,545 --> 00:44:42,278 Not a problem. 876 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,683 Unscrew that. Just hit the button. 877 00:44:46,685 --> 00:44:51,354 Excuse me. Flight attendant? The man next to me would appear to be detonating a bomb. 878 00:44:51,356 --> 00:44:53,322 You think this looks like a bomb. 879 00:44:53,324 --> 00:44:55,692 Even right now, I'm not 100% sure it isn't. 880 00:44:57,361 --> 00:45:00,263 - I think maybe once people get used to it-- - no. 881 00:45:05,536 --> 00:45:08,638 I was angry. 882 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,407 You were saying things about the apple ii, and the way you were treating the team-- 883 00:45:11,409 --> 00:45:15,044 woz. You get a free pass for life. 884 00:45:15,046 --> 00:45:18,581 I got to get back onstage. We got two minutes of rehearsal time left. 885 00:45:18,583 --> 00:45:22,552 Do you understand how condescending that just was? Maybe you don't. 886 00:45:22,554 --> 00:45:25,054 I don't want to see you get dragged off an airplane in plastic handcuffs. 887 00:45:25,056 --> 00:45:27,223 I get a free pass for life from you? 888 00:45:28,392 --> 00:45:31,494 You give out the pass-- y-y-you give them to me? 889 00:45:31,496 --> 00:45:33,229 You're gonna have a stroke, little buddy. 890 00:45:33,231 --> 00:45:36,299 What did you do? What did you do? 891 00:45:38,202 --> 00:45:40,103 Why has Lisa not heard of me? 892 00:45:40,105 --> 00:45:42,238 Shit, man, how many fourth-graders have heard of you? 893 00:45:43,707 --> 00:45:47,910 You can't write code. You're not an engineer. You're not a designer. 894 00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:50,213 You can't put a hammer to a nail. 895 00:45:50,215 --> 00:45:51,748 I built the circuit board. 896 00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:54,350 The graphical interface was stolen from xerox parc. 897 00:45:54,352 --> 00:45:58,020 Jef raskin was the leader of the Mac team before you threw him off his own project. 898 00:45:58,022 --> 00:46:00,089 Everything-- someone else designed the box. 899 00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:03,192 So how come 10 times in a day, 900 00:46:03,194 --> 00:46:06,929 I read "Steve Jobs is a genius"? 901 00:46:06,931 --> 00:46:08,765 What do you do? 902 00:46:08,767 --> 00:46:10,600 I play the orchestra. 903 00:46:10,602 --> 00:46:12,635 And you're a good musician. You sit right there. 904 00:46:12,637 --> 00:46:14,704 You're the best in your row. 905 00:46:14,706 --> 00:46:16,873 I came here to clear the air. 906 00:46:16,875 --> 00:46:19,408 Do you know why I came here? Didn't you just answer that? 907 00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:22,211 I came here because you're gonna get killed. 908 00:46:22,213 --> 00:46:25,214 Your computer's gonna fail. 909 00:46:25,216 --> 00:46:27,750 You had a college and university advisory board 910 00:46:27,752 --> 00:46:30,720 telling you they need a powerful workstation for 2,000 to 3,000. 911 00:46:30,722 --> 00:46:32,789 You've priced next at 6,500. 912 00:46:32,791 --> 00:46:35,458 And that doesn't include the optional $3,000 hard drive, 913 00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:38,094 which people will discover isn't optional. 914 00:46:38,096 --> 00:46:41,130 Because the optical disk is too weak to do anything. 915 00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:45,301 And the $2,500 laser printer brings the total to $12,000. 916 00:46:45,303 --> 00:46:47,436 And in the entire world, you are the only person 917 00:46:47,438 --> 00:46:50,173 who cares that it's housed in a perfect cube. 918 00:46:50,175 --> 00:46:52,441 You're gonna get killed. 919 00:46:52,443 --> 00:46:54,977 And I came here to stand next to you while that happens 920 00:46:54,979 --> 00:46:56,979 because that's what friends do. 921 00:46:56,981 --> 00:47:00,516 That's what men do. I don't need your pass. 922 00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,353 We go back, so don't talk to me like I'm other people. 923 00:47:04,355 --> 00:47:06,656 I'm the only one that knows 924 00:47:06,658 --> 00:47:09,659 that this guy here is someone you invented. 925 00:47:09,661 --> 00:47:14,363 I'm standing by you because that perfect cube that does nothing 926 00:47:14,365 --> 00:47:16,999 is about to be the single biggest failure 927 00:47:17,001 --> 00:47:19,402 in the history of personal computing. 928 00:47:21,505 --> 00:47:24,073 Tell me something else i don't know. 929 00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:31,781 Back onstage? We're out of time. 930 00:47:31,783 --> 00:47:35,384 They've got to mop the stage and open the house. 931 00:47:35,386 --> 00:47:39,021 If it crashes, it crashes, right? 932 00:47:39,023 --> 00:47:40,690 You'll make a joke. 933 00:47:40,692 --> 00:47:42,191 I'll make a joke. 934 00:47:42,193 --> 00:47:44,727 If it crashes, it crashes. 935 00:47:44,729 --> 00:47:48,331 It's a good slogan. "Next. If it crashes, it crashes." 936 00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:50,533 I'm not just talking about the demo, Steve. 937 00:47:50,535 --> 00:47:52,869 If it tanks, we don't swallow cyanide. 938 00:47:52,871 --> 00:47:55,838 We go back to the drawing board. No more drawing boards. 939 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,307 Invent the edsel twice, you don't get any more drawing boards. 940 00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:59,842 Tell me what the plan is. 941 00:47:59,844 --> 00:48:02,078 You have to tell me the plan, because I don't know. 942 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,882 You're walking around like you've got "can't lose" cards. 943 00:48:05,884 --> 00:48:09,919 The plan will reveal itself to you when you're ready to see it. 944 00:48:09,921 --> 00:48:12,521 Will I have to drop acid? 945 00:48:12,523 --> 00:48:13,990 Couldn't hurt. 946 00:48:13,992 --> 00:48:15,424 Is there a plan? 947 00:48:15,426 --> 00:48:17,226 Have I ever let you down? 948 00:48:17,228 --> 00:48:19,061 Every single goddamn time. 949 00:48:19,063 --> 00:48:21,030 Then I'm due. Is there? 950 00:48:21,032 --> 00:48:23,032 Joanna, there's a plan. 951 00:48:23,034 --> 00:48:26,736 I just don't wanna put you in a position where you're lying to people. 952 00:48:28,606 --> 00:48:32,008 Start 15 minutes late so avie can recompile and give us a fighting chance. 953 00:48:32,010 --> 00:48:34,377 Jesus Christ. How many times are we gonna have this con-- 954 00:48:34,379 --> 00:48:36,245 we're not starting late, ever! Fine! 955 00:48:36,247 --> 00:48:39,382 We're not ever starting late. Late. 956 00:48:39,384 --> 00:48:42,518 But where do you come down on starting late? 957 00:48:50,961 --> 00:48:55,531 Lisa's been doing this thing where she asks me about stuff I've already told her. 958 00:48:55,533 --> 00:48:58,100 She asks me questions, and I know she already knows the answers. 959 00:48:58,102 --> 00:48:59,802 What's that about? 960 00:48:59,804 --> 00:49:03,806 Kids do that when they're scared one of their parents is in a bad mood. 961 00:49:03,808 --> 00:49:07,276 They try to get you talking about something you like. 962 00:49:07,278 --> 00:49:12,615 It's very common and can be treated by talking to her about things she likes. 963 00:49:12,617 --> 00:49:17,053 Do you have any experience or training in this field? 964 00:49:17,055 --> 00:49:18,287 No. 965 00:49:18,289 --> 00:49:20,523 Tell them to open the house. 966 00:49:27,497 --> 00:49:30,533 Where's Lisa? She's around. 967 00:49:32,836 --> 00:49:35,805 - What does that mean? - She's running around the building. 968 00:49:35,807 --> 00:49:38,307 An hour ago, you said you were taking her to school. 969 00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:41,644 She begged me to let her stay. There are fathers who would so love-- 970 00:49:41,646 --> 00:49:46,082 it is wrong, okay? It is morally wrong, it's parentally wrong. 971 00:49:46,084 --> 00:49:49,352 It is wrong for you to use Lisa as a way of getting money from me. 972 00:49:49,354 --> 00:49:52,321 She will know, if she doesn't already, that that is your primary use for her. 973 00:49:52,323 --> 00:49:54,523 She will hate you for the rest of your life. 974 00:49:54,525 --> 00:49:58,294 She will see, if she doesn't already, that her mother is a woman who stands up to men. 975 00:49:58,296 --> 00:50:00,096 By living off of them. 976 00:50:00,098 --> 00:50:02,999 By not letting myself be imprisoned and degraded by them. 977 00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:07,436 Imprisoned? I can't get rid of you. 978 00:50:08,538 --> 00:50:11,273 I need a doctor and I need a dentist. 979 00:50:11,275 --> 00:50:14,377 I dropped out of college after a semester, but, okay, let's have a look. 980 00:50:14,379 --> 00:50:16,812 You will support your daughter and her mother. 981 00:50:16,814 --> 00:50:19,215 Did you pay someone $1,500 to bless your house? 982 00:50:19,217 --> 00:50:21,717 Did you hear what I said? Did you? 983 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,686 I don't remember how much it was, Steve. 984 00:50:23,688 --> 00:50:26,322 - It was $1,500. - Well, they don't do it for free. 985 00:50:26,324 --> 00:50:27,990 They don't. They charge $1,500. 986 00:50:27,992 --> 00:50:30,893 How I spend-- fuck. You know, I'm not even gonna-- 987 00:50:30,895 --> 00:50:34,530 were you about to say, "how I spend my money is none of your business"? 988 00:50:34,532 --> 00:50:37,867 I have a sinus infection and I need to see a dentist too. 989 00:50:37,869 --> 00:50:40,503 So you can see how your blessing budget could have been better spent. 990 00:50:40,505 --> 00:50:43,039 Like on a perfect cube? 991 00:50:44,708 --> 00:50:47,043 - Look at me, chrisann. - What? 992 00:50:47,045 --> 00:50:49,145 - You know who I am, right? - Yes. 993 00:50:49,147 --> 00:50:51,580 - And you know I know people. - What are you talking about? 994 00:50:51,582 --> 00:50:55,384 Look at me. And you know the people I know, they know people. 995 00:50:55,386 --> 00:50:57,053 What is this? 996 00:50:57,055 --> 00:51:00,423 If I ever hear again that you've thrown a cereal bowl at Lisa's head-- 997 00:51:00,425 --> 00:51:02,691 what? My private line's gonna ring, 998 00:51:02,693 --> 00:51:05,661 and a voice on the other end is gonna say, "we're all set." 999 00:51:05,663 --> 00:51:07,997 That's how I'll learn that you're dead. Are you cra-- 1000 00:51:07,999 --> 00:51:10,066 I threw the bowl on the floor. 1001 00:51:10,068 --> 00:51:11,734 I didn't throw it at her head. 1002 00:51:11,736 --> 00:51:13,502 She wasn't even in the room. 1003 00:51:13,504 --> 00:51:16,405 She was nowhere-- i threw the bowl on the floor. 1004 00:51:16,407 --> 00:51:19,542 She's a little girl. You're scaring her. 1005 00:51:19,544 --> 00:51:22,178 I'm a grown man. You're scaring me. 1006 00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:24,413 Taking out the garbage is a chore. 1007 00:51:24,415 --> 00:51:26,515 Clearing the table is a chore. 1008 00:51:26,517 --> 00:51:29,085 Waking you up in the morning is just fucking creepy. 1009 00:51:29,087 --> 00:51:32,088 Please teach me more about being a parent. We're all done here. 1010 00:51:32,090 --> 00:51:35,458 It means so much coming from someone who won't admit he is one. 1011 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:37,460 Stop screaming at Lisa. I give her responsibilities. 1012 00:51:37,462 --> 00:51:39,628 Got it. One day she's gonna thank me for it. 1013 00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:41,597 Probably in your sleep. Fuck off! 1014 00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:42,765 Okay. 1015 00:51:42,767 --> 00:51:45,301 I never-- i never threw anything at her head. 1016 00:51:45,303 --> 00:51:47,803 Steve. 1017 00:51:47,805 --> 00:51:49,638 I never would. 1018 00:51:50,607 --> 00:51:54,677 Things don't become so because you say so. 1019 00:51:56,279 --> 00:51:59,482 There'll be more money in your account by the end of business. 1020 00:52:08,291 --> 00:52:10,559 Were you being nice? Oh, yeah. 1021 00:52:16,767 --> 00:52:20,302 - Andy's next. - Hertzfeld or Cunningham? 1022 00:52:20,304 --> 00:52:24,640 Hertzfeld. He's playing with avie tevanian on the computer backstage. 1023 00:52:26,910 --> 00:52:30,713 Ladies and gentlemen, the house is now open. 1024 00:52:45,662 --> 00:52:48,864 ...playing in front of thousands of people. Steve! 1025 00:52:49,966 --> 00:52:52,835 Can he do it later, Joel? We go in eight minutes. 1026 00:52:52,837 --> 00:52:55,371 Can I get a quick reaction to the press this morning? What about it? 1027 00:52:55,373 --> 00:52:58,007 The size of it, the volume. I'll tell you on background-- 1028 00:52:58,009 --> 00:53:00,276 I was hoping for a quote from Steve. I'll tell you on background 1029 00:53:00,278 --> 00:53:03,012 that I've never seen anything like it in the tech industry. 1030 00:53:03,014 --> 00:53:06,015 I called the wall street journal to take out a full-page ad for today, 1031 00:53:06,017 --> 00:53:08,184 and do you know what their sales guy said? 1032 00:53:08,186 --> 00:53:12,688 "Why bother? It'd be like notifying Macy's that tomorrow is Christmas." 1033 00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:14,790 You saw the Stewart alsop newsletter? I did. 1034 00:53:14,792 --> 00:53:17,059 I'm sorry, Joanna, i need to get Steve on the record. 1035 00:53:17,061 --> 00:53:21,463 The headline was "dear next, when can I get my machine?" 1036 00:53:21,465 --> 00:53:25,534 When can he? We'll announce the ship date in the next eight to 10 weeks. 1037 00:53:25,536 --> 00:53:27,036 Alsop's not talking about the ship date. 1038 00:53:27,038 --> 00:53:29,638 He wants to know when he can get one to play with. 1039 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,740 We have a lot of respect for Stewart alsop, 1040 00:53:31,742 --> 00:53:35,544 and we want to get a machine into his hands so he can tell his subscribers about it. 1041 00:53:35,546 --> 00:53:38,214 And when will that be? Very soon. 1042 00:53:38,216 --> 00:53:41,050 Couple of days? A week? 1043 00:53:41,052 --> 00:53:43,686 Off the record. 1044 00:53:43,688 --> 00:53:46,155 Off the record? Completely. 1045 00:53:46,157 --> 00:53:49,325 We think-- he'll get it when it's finished. 1046 00:53:49,327 --> 00:53:51,060 It's not finished? 1047 00:53:51,062 --> 00:53:52,428 It's almost finished. 1048 00:53:52,430 --> 00:53:55,331 I've been watching you rehearse the demo for three weeks. Yeah. 1049 00:53:55,333 --> 00:53:56,865 What's left? A little thing. 1050 00:53:56,867 --> 00:53:58,601 What? I think that's enough. 1051 00:53:58,603 --> 00:54:01,670 We're off the record, and Joel's always been good at understanding nuance. 1052 00:54:01,672 --> 00:54:03,939 What's left to finish? 1053 00:54:03,941 --> 00:54:07,676 I guess, in layman's terms, you'd have to say we don't have an os. 1054 00:54:10,780 --> 00:54:12,982 An operating system? Yeah. 1055 00:54:14,584 --> 00:54:18,354 What do you mean? - Well, the os is what runs the computer. 1056 00:54:18,356 --> 00:54:20,256 In fact, it sort of is the computer. 1057 00:54:20,258 --> 00:54:22,625 How has it been running? How's it gonna run this morning? 1058 00:54:22,627 --> 00:54:25,094 What do you mean, you don't have an os? 1059 00:54:25,096 --> 00:54:28,530 It's like this. Avie tevanian is our chief software designer, 1060 00:54:28,532 --> 00:54:30,099 and he wrote a demo program. 1061 00:54:30,101 --> 00:54:33,269 It's like we built a great car, but we haven't built the engine. 1062 00:54:33,271 --> 00:54:36,105 So we put a golf cart battery in there to make it go for a bit. 1063 00:54:36,107 --> 00:54:38,941 All this computer knows how to do right now is demonstrate itself. 1064 00:54:38,943 --> 00:54:41,310 You're telling me the only thing you've built is a black cube? 1065 00:54:41,312 --> 00:54:43,279 Yes. Yeah. 1066 00:54:43,281 --> 00:54:45,481 But isn't it the coolest black cube you've ever seen? 1067 00:54:45,483 --> 00:54:47,116 Is this-- we're off the record. 1068 00:54:47,118 --> 00:54:49,585 Is this a strategy or a problem? If it's a problem-- 1069 00:54:49,587 --> 00:54:53,589 do not share proprietary knowledge with that man. 1070 00:54:53,591 --> 00:54:55,791 It's not a problem. 1071 00:54:55,793 --> 00:54:57,493 I wouldn't understand it anyway. 1072 00:54:57,495 --> 00:55:00,429 I don't understand it either, and my name's on the patents. 1073 00:55:00,431 --> 00:55:03,766 - It's got e-mail. - Well, e-mail's not just for tech specialists anymore. 1074 00:55:03,768 --> 00:55:05,668 Well, it is, but it won't be. 1075 00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:10,306 And I assume an e-mail sent on a next computer can only be received by a next computer? 1076 00:55:10,308 --> 00:55:12,308 Closed, end-to-end. 1077 00:55:12,310 --> 00:55:13,909 The new trash can is wrong. 1078 00:55:13,911 --> 00:55:16,278 I wanna tell you i appreciate all the hours you put into it, 1079 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,315 but I can't because of how terrible it is. 1080 00:55:19,317 --> 00:55:20,849 Go back to the other one. 1081 00:55:20,851 --> 00:55:23,352 Why are we still giving three options on the clock? 1082 00:55:23,354 --> 00:55:26,755 - How many options do you want to give? - Two. Buy it or don't. 1083 00:55:26,757 --> 00:55:28,324 Can I talk to you for a second? 1084 00:55:28,326 --> 00:55:29,491 Abso-fruitly. 1085 00:55:29,493 --> 00:55:31,660 Uh, look, man. Avie's been recompiling, 1086 00:55:31,662 --> 00:55:34,029 but he says there may be some glitches this morning. 1087 00:55:34,031 --> 00:55:36,031 If all there are are some glitches, 1088 00:55:36,033 --> 00:55:38,667 it'll be a triumph of miraculous magnitude. 1089 00:55:38,669 --> 00:55:40,769 Why are you translating for avie? 1090 00:55:40,771 --> 00:55:44,807 I-i didn't want him to find out the hard way your position on glitches in a demo, 1091 00:55:44,809 --> 00:55:46,842 but it sounds like you've mellowed. 1092 00:55:46,844 --> 00:55:49,845 I've been growing, Andy. I've been learning to love myself. 1093 00:55:49,847 --> 00:55:52,181 Hmm. I wouldn't have ever dreamed that was a problem. 1094 00:55:52,183 --> 00:55:53,682 Fantastic burn. 1095 00:55:53,684 --> 00:55:55,484 You need to go to your seat. 1096 00:55:55,486 --> 00:55:58,220 How about Lisa, getting into a school for gifted kids? 1097 00:55:58,222 --> 00:56:00,789 Yeah, she was tested and it turns out she can fly. 1098 00:56:00,791 --> 00:56:02,958 - Seriously, it's a big deal. - I know it's a big deal. 1099 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,361 That's why I built the school a building. 1100 00:56:05,363 --> 00:56:08,731 Well, I'm sure that's not why she got in. Really? 1101 00:56:08,733 --> 00:56:11,934 Uh, can I show you something funny from macworld? 1102 00:56:15,572 --> 00:56:19,641 I can't think of anything i have to do right now. It'll make you feel good. 1103 00:56:19,643 --> 00:56:22,644 Joanna! Look at this! Oh, Andy, he's only got a couple of minutes. 1104 00:56:22,646 --> 00:56:25,347 It's guy kawasaki writing in macworld. You're gonna like this. 1105 00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:27,349 Well, can we all enjoy it later? 1106 00:56:27,351 --> 00:56:32,187 He wrote a parody press release about apple buying next for your os. 1107 00:56:32,189 --> 00:56:36,058 He imagines a near future where apple needs your os and has to buy next, 1108 00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:38,694 and-and you come back as ceo. 1109 00:56:38,696 --> 00:56:40,396 He has gates saying, 1110 00:56:40,398 --> 00:56:44,666 "there would now be more innovations from jobs that Microsoft could copy." 1111 00:56:46,903 --> 00:56:50,873 You can read it later. Thanks. 1112 00:56:50,875 --> 00:56:53,409 She would've gotten in without you donating a building. 1113 00:56:53,411 --> 00:56:56,745 Still, it's something to talk about in the interview. 1114 00:56:59,582 --> 00:57:02,217 All right. Good luck. 1115 00:57:02,219 --> 00:57:03,819 Thanks. 1116 00:57:05,889 --> 00:57:07,923 Give that to me. I'll throw it out for you. 1117 00:57:07,925 --> 00:57:10,292 I'm gonna hang on to it. 1118 00:57:11,528 --> 00:57:13,228 What? 1119 00:57:13,230 --> 00:57:14,830 What? 1120 00:57:15,632 --> 00:57:17,699 You ready for sculley? 1121 00:57:17,701 --> 00:57:19,601 Excuse me! 1122 00:57:19,603 --> 00:57:21,470 Lisa! 1123 00:57:21,472 --> 00:57:23,038 You can't shout! 1124 00:57:30,613 --> 00:57:32,181 Lisa? 1125 00:57:41,758 --> 00:57:43,892 You have to go. 1126 00:57:45,495 --> 00:57:48,797 It's dangerous up here. That's why I make other people do it. 1127 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,435 Who are you hiding from, me or your mom? 1128 00:57:53,437 --> 00:57:56,004 I'm not hiding. 1129 00:57:57,006 --> 00:57:59,041 Let's go. 1130 00:58:06,583 --> 00:58:08,083 What were you listening to? 1131 00:58:09,252 --> 00:58:12,688 I'm listening to two versions of the same song. 1132 00:58:12,690 --> 00:58:16,291 Then when I get to the ends, i rewind to listen to them again. 1133 00:58:16,293 --> 00:58:19,661 It's the same song, but the versions are different. 1134 00:58:19,663 --> 00:58:22,331 What's the song? Okay. 1135 00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:25,367 So it's a really old song, and it's called "both sides, now." 1136 00:58:25,369 --> 00:58:29,638 "Both sides, now"? Yeah. 1137 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,707 What's it about? 1138 00:58:31,709 --> 00:58:36,211 It's about-- there are three verses: Clouds, love and life. 1139 00:58:36,213 --> 00:58:40,849 And the person singing is singing that they used to think of-- 1140 00:58:40,851 --> 00:58:42,684 that they used to think about-- 1141 00:58:42,686 --> 00:58:45,053 clouds, love and life? Right. 1142 00:58:45,055 --> 00:58:48,891 One way, yeah, but now they look at them another way, and they-- 1143 00:58:48,893 --> 00:58:54,730 they've come to the conclusion that they really don't know clouds, love or life at all. 1144 00:58:54,732 --> 00:58:57,366 Those are the exact words. 1145 00:58:57,368 --> 00:58:58,800 Yeah, joni Mitchell. 1146 00:58:58,802 --> 00:59:02,471 'Cause it's not a really old song, unless I'm a really old guy. 1147 00:59:03,973 --> 00:59:06,241 You have to go to school now. 1148 00:59:06,243 --> 00:59:09,511 Do you want me to tell you the differences between the two versions? 1149 00:59:09,513 --> 00:59:11,179 Right now. 1150 00:59:11,181 --> 00:59:14,383 The first version is the kind of thing that you would call girlish. 1151 00:59:14,385 --> 00:59:16,752 I didn't mean i want to know the difference right now. 1152 00:59:16,754 --> 00:59:19,354 I meant you have to go to school right now. 1153 00:59:19,356 --> 00:59:20,989 I can stay and watch. 1154 00:59:20,991 --> 00:59:23,325 You are truant. You're committing a crime. 1155 00:59:23,327 --> 00:59:25,827 I'm not gonna miss anything important. 1156 00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:28,697 How do you know? I read ahead. 1157 00:59:28,699 --> 00:59:31,934 The pilgrims make it to the new world. 1158 00:59:31,936 --> 00:59:33,835 Then the declaration of independence. 1159 00:59:33,837 --> 00:59:35,871 Yeah, you skipped a couple centuries. 1160 00:59:35,873 --> 00:59:38,740 Steve? Chrisann's out there. 1161 00:59:45,582 --> 00:59:47,249 Let's go. 1162 00:59:47,251 --> 00:59:49,184 Can I make my case for staying? 1163 00:59:49,186 --> 00:59:50,586 Nope. 1164 01:00:09,606 --> 01:00:12,708 She was with me. Come on. Your dad doesn't want us to stay. 1165 01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:15,777 That's not true. That's not-- 1166 01:00:15,779 --> 01:00:18,246 you have to be in school is all. 1167 01:00:18,248 --> 01:00:21,817 I'm committing a crime right now, and I don't wanna get in trouble. 1168 01:00:21,819 --> 01:00:23,385 You're not in trouble. I was kidding. 1169 01:00:24,554 --> 01:00:25,954 Okay. 1170 01:00:25,956 --> 01:00:28,590 Hey. What was the second version? 1171 01:00:28,592 --> 01:00:31,326 You said the first version was girlish. What was the second version? 1172 01:00:33,162 --> 01:00:34,896 I can't really think of the word. 1173 01:00:34,898 --> 01:00:36,632 Okay. Well, have a good day at school. 1174 01:00:36,634 --> 01:00:39,101 Regretful. What? 1175 01:00:39,103 --> 01:00:41,970 Like wishing you could go back and do things different. 1176 01:00:41,972 --> 01:00:44,306 You're too young to be regretful. 1177 01:00:44,308 --> 01:00:46,675 Not me. 1178 01:00:46,677 --> 01:00:48,543 The person singing the song. 1179 01:00:49,612 --> 01:00:52,881 Got it. Regretful. That makes sense because-- 1180 01:00:55,852 --> 01:00:57,919 I wanna live with you. 1181 01:01:10,867 --> 01:01:13,001 Six minutes. 1182 01:01:13,003 --> 01:01:15,203 - You want to see sculley? - No. 1183 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,716 You know all those times i told you you needed security? 1184 01:01:27,718 --> 01:01:29,918 Here's why. 1185 01:01:35,158 --> 01:01:38,360 I don't know how it is I've gotten older and you haven't. 1186 01:01:38,362 --> 01:01:41,396 Some deal with the devil i was never offered. 1187 01:01:41,398 --> 01:01:43,865 So you know what I've been thinking for the last four years? 1188 01:01:43,867 --> 01:01:47,669 As it turns out, John, I've never known what you were thinking. 1189 01:01:47,671 --> 01:01:50,372 No newborn baby has control. 1190 01:01:50,374 --> 01:01:52,307 Do you know what I'm talking about? 1191 01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:54,543 In '84, before the Mac launch. You said-- 1192 01:01:54,545 --> 01:01:58,013 yeah. You said that being adopted meant you didn't have control. 1193 01:01:58,015 --> 01:01:59,414 We're starting in a minute, so-- 1194 01:01:59,416 --> 01:02:01,817 why do people think i fired you? 1195 01:02:01,819 --> 01:02:03,618 It's fine, John. It's all behind us. 1196 01:02:07,590 --> 01:02:09,925 Is it? Hmm? 1197 01:02:09,927 --> 01:02:12,160 Don't play stupid. You can't pull it off. 1198 01:02:14,597 --> 01:02:17,733 You came here to ask me why people think you fired me? 1199 01:02:17,735 --> 01:02:19,468 Why do people think i fired you? 1200 01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:23,305 Just confirm something for me, okay? 1201 01:02:24,774 --> 01:02:26,842 You liked the ad, right? 1202 01:02:26,844 --> 01:02:28,677 The commercial-- "1984." You liked it. 1203 01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:31,847 When are you gonna get furniture? It's not an easy process. 1204 01:02:31,849 --> 01:02:33,949 It is. You buy a couch, take it from there. 1205 01:02:33,951 --> 01:02:37,586 I'd be really surprised if you came here to talk about interior decorating. 1206 01:02:37,588 --> 01:02:38,887 I liked the ad very much. 1207 01:02:38,889 --> 01:02:40,222 You did? You know I did. 1208 01:02:40,224 --> 01:02:42,357 You're a lying son of a bitch. You tried to kill it. 1209 01:02:42,359 --> 01:02:45,227 - It's time to take a hard look at the Mac. - It's past time. 1210 01:02:45,229 --> 01:02:49,431 It's overpriced. We need to drop it to 1,995. 1211 01:02:49,433 --> 01:02:51,366 We need to double the marketing budget, 1212 01:02:51,368 --> 01:02:53,135 put more bodies on an internal hard drive 1213 01:02:53,137 --> 01:02:54,770 and invest in fileserver. 1214 01:02:54,772 --> 01:02:57,205 - Where the hell did you get the idea I tried to kill-- - Lee clow. 1215 01:02:57,207 --> 01:02:58,907 Lee's wrong. He's lying? 1216 01:02:58,909 --> 01:03:01,109 - He's... mistaken. Where would the money come from? 1217 01:03:01,111 --> 01:03:03,378 It would come from finally getting rid of the apple ii. 1218 01:03:03,380 --> 01:03:05,247 The apple ii is the only thing making money. 1219 01:03:05,249 --> 01:03:08,383 - You agreed with the board. - I understood the board's concerns, but i-- 1220 01:03:08,385 --> 01:03:10,452 the board's concerns that we didn't show the product? 1221 01:03:10,454 --> 01:03:12,454 Among other things, but my question was-- what other things? 1222 01:03:12,456 --> 01:03:15,624 I'm asking because I'm curious. You said "among other things." 1223 01:03:15,626 --> 01:03:18,326 Among other things, it was set in a dystopian galaxy. 1224 01:03:18,328 --> 01:03:20,295 It took place on a planet where we don't live. 1225 01:03:20,297 --> 01:03:22,330 It was dark and the opposite of our brand. 1226 01:03:22,332 --> 01:03:24,633 And we didn't show the product. 1227 01:03:24,635 --> 01:03:28,336 People talked about the ad but most of them didn't know what we were selling. 1228 01:03:28,338 --> 01:03:30,405 The Mac needs to sell for 1,995. 1229 01:03:30,407 --> 01:03:34,442 There is no market research telling us the Mac is failing because it's overpriced. 1230 01:03:34,444 --> 01:03:38,313 It's telling us that people don't like it because they think it doesn't do anything. 1231 01:03:38,315 --> 01:03:40,749 It's closed, end-to-end. 1232 01:03:40,751 --> 01:03:43,318 We didn't know it wasn't what people wanted, but it isn't. 1233 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,420 They want slots, they want choices, they want options. 1234 01:03:45,422 --> 01:03:47,789 The way we buy stereos-- mix and match components. 1235 01:03:47,791 --> 01:03:50,358 John, listen to me. Whoever said the customer is always right 1236 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,093 was, I promise you, a customer. 1237 01:03:52,095 --> 01:03:54,329 It had skinheads in it. She was liberating them. 1238 01:03:54,331 --> 01:03:57,499 - Liberating the skinheads. - The ad didn't have anything to do with fucking skinheads. 1239 01:03:57,501 --> 01:03:59,201 We used them as fucking extras. 1240 01:03:59,203 --> 01:04:00,669 Nobody even knows they were skinheads. 1241 01:04:00,671 --> 01:04:03,004 I'm just saying the board had concerns-- 1242 01:04:03,006 --> 01:04:04,873 you invented lifestyle advertising. 1243 01:04:04,875 --> 01:04:06,808 And our brand was my brand. 1244 01:04:06,810 --> 01:04:09,544 My job is to make a recommendation to the board. 1245 01:04:09,546 --> 01:04:11,213 We showed a lot of happy people drinking Pepsi. 1246 01:04:11,215 --> 01:04:14,382 We didn't say the world was going to end if you bought a Dr. pepper. 1247 01:04:14,384 --> 01:04:17,118 Recommend that we drop the price and double the marketing budget. 1248 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,721 - I can't. - And we showed the product. 1249 01:04:19,723 --> 01:04:23,358 We showed it being opened, we showed it being poured, being consumed. 1250 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,560 What are you gonna do, recommend that we kill the Mac? 1251 01:04:25,562 --> 01:04:27,529 I already have, Steve. 1252 01:04:28,998 --> 01:04:31,967 What? When? 1253 01:04:31,969 --> 01:04:33,668 You think the secret to your success 1254 01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:35,871 was not assuming people knew what to do with a can of soda? 1255 01:04:35,873 --> 01:04:39,374 I didn't kill the ad, Steve! I'm the only reason it made it on the air. 1256 01:04:39,376 --> 01:04:41,576 Just now. An hour ago. 1257 01:04:41,578 --> 01:04:43,211 I'm coming from markkula's house. 1258 01:04:43,213 --> 01:04:46,214 What did he say? 1259 01:04:46,216 --> 01:04:48,350 What did he say? Invent something new. 1260 01:04:48,352 --> 01:04:50,151 I'll give you a team. You can sit in Maui. 1261 01:04:50,153 --> 01:04:51,720 The resorts come with couches. 1262 01:04:51,722 --> 01:04:55,724 Wait a minute. Are you saying you recommended terminating the Mac 1263 01:04:56,759 --> 01:04:58,727 or you recommended taking me off the Mac team? 1264 01:04:58,729 --> 01:05:01,763 We bought three spots in the super bowl. Two 30's and a 60. 1265 01:05:01,765 --> 01:05:03,598 After we screened it, the board wanted that money back 1266 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,533 and they asked me to sell off the spots. 1267 01:05:05,535 --> 01:05:07,903 Chiat/day sold off the two 30's but not the 60, 1268 01:05:07,905 --> 01:05:09,437 and I let it be known to Lee clow 1269 01:05:09,439 --> 01:05:11,740 that if he didn't try very hard to sell the last spot, 1270 01:05:11,742 --> 01:05:13,275 I wouldn't be unhappy. 1271 01:05:13,277 --> 01:05:15,377 If we drop the price and double the budget-- 1272 01:05:15,379 --> 01:05:17,045 drop the price or double the budget. 1273 01:05:17,047 --> 01:05:19,714 The only way to do that is to take money out of the apple ii. 1274 01:05:19,716 --> 01:05:22,417 The apple ii should embarrass you. It embarrasses me. 1275 01:05:22,419 --> 01:05:24,252 It doesn't embarrass the shareholders. 1276 01:05:24,254 --> 01:05:25,921 I don't give a shit about the shareholders. 1277 01:05:25,923 --> 01:05:28,223 That's why I hired you, so I don't have to hear about shareholders. 1278 01:05:28,225 --> 01:05:31,760 The shareholders are my problem, and the board represents the shareholders. 1279 01:05:31,762 --> 01:05:33,595 That's how it works. 1280 01:05:33,597 --> 01:05:36,097 You sure it wasn't Lee clow who dragged his feet selling the 60? 1281 01:05:36,099 --> 01:05:38,633 At my direction, Steve. 1282 01:05:38,635 --> 01:05:41,469 You think he would have done that on his own, taken it on himself? 1283 01:05:41,471 --> 01:05:44,105 Yeah. I think he would've done what it took to save it from you. 1284 01:05:44,107 --> 01:05:46,775 I was the only thing protecting it. You didn't want the ad 1285 01:05:46,777 --> 01:05:49,811 because you were trying to kill the Mac two months before it launched. 1286 01:05:49,813 --> 01:05:51,513 You are fucking delusional. 1287 01:05:54,785 --> 01:05:56,618 Can I mention something to you? Sure. 1288 01:05:56,620 --> 01:05:58,787 I have no earthly idea why you're here. 1289 01:06:00,790 --> 01:06:03,959 The story of why and how you left apple, 1290 01:06:03,961 --> 01:06:06,895 which is quickly becoming mythologized, isn't true. 1291 01:06:06,897 --> 01:06:09,264 - I'm gonna take this to the board myself. - Don't do that. 1292 01:06:09,266 --> 01:06:10,966 I am doing that. You can't. 1293 01:06:10,968 --> 01:06:12,300 Why? 1294 01:06:13,769 --> 01:06:16,571 They believe you're no longer necessary to this company. 1295 01:06:21,277 --> 01:06:25,480 I get hate mail, death threats. 1296 01:06:26,449 --> 01:06:28,683 I get death threats. 1297 01:06:29,986 --> 01:06:33,521 My kids are getting taunted. Why do people think I fired you? 1298 01:06:36,158 --> 01:06:37,926 Joanna's gonna call my name in a second. 1299 01:06:37,928 --> 01:06:39,761 - Steve? - That was unrehearsed. 1300 01:06:39,763 --> 01:06:41,363 Yeah, I'll be there in just a second. 1301 01:06:41,365 --> 01:06:43,665 I gave you your day in court. 1302 01:06:43,667 --> 01:06:45,467 - You gave me? - I gave the board a clear choice. 1303 01:06:45,469 --> 01:06:48,937 I said, "do you want to invest in the apple ii or the Mac?" They chose the apple ii. 1304 01:06:48,939 --> 01:06:51,106 The same people who wanted to dump the super bowl spot. 1305 01:06:51,108 --> 01:06:52,874 And then I got on a plane to China. 1306 01:06:54,844 --> 01:06:57,278 Mr. sculley. There's a call for you on line one. 1307 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,615 Or I almost got on a plane, because I got a call in the lounge. 1308 01:07:00,617 --> 01:07:02,283 - Who made that call? - Doesn't matter. 1309 01:07:02,285 --> 01:07:03,952 It matters to me. Who made the call? 1310 01:07:03,954 --> 01:07:03,952 John sculley. 1311 01:07:03,954 --> 01:07:06,988 John? If you get on that plane, 1312 01:07:06,990 --> 01:07:09,858 you'll have lost your job by the time it lands. 1313 01:07:09,860 --> 01:07:13,361 Steve's been calling the board. He wants you out. 1314 01:07:13,363 --> 01:07:16,364 I left my bags on the plane. My shit's still somewhere in Beijing. 1315 01:07:16,366 --> 01:07:19,401 I took a car back to cupertino in the middle of the fucking night. 1316 01:07:19,403 --> 01:07:24,172 I know what time it is. I need a quorum here in one hour and I want Steve here too. 1317 01:07:24,174 --> 01:07:26,808 You took me off the Mac, and it was bad business. 1318 01:07:26,810 --> 01:07:29,644 The quorum call was a homicide. Right there! Right there. 1319 01:07:29,646 --> 01:07:31,312 That's the part that's bullshit, my friend. 1320 01:07:31,314 --> 01:07:32,881 It was a suicide. 1321 01:07:32,883 --> 01:07:35,550 Because you knew your cards and I showed you mine. 1322 01:07:35,552 --> 01:07:38,386 I showed you mine, and you did it anyway. 1323 01:07:38,388 --> 01:07:39,888 What did you think i was gonna do? 1324 01:07:39,890 --> 01:07:42,490 I'm okay losing, but I'm not gonna forfeit. 1325 01:07:42,492 --> 01:07:45,093 I'm not okay losing. 1326 01:07:45,095 --> 01:07:47,662 We're losing market share, and the Mac is losing money. 1327 01:07:47,664 --> 01:07:52,901 Our only hope is the apple ii, which is stagnating because of its soon-to-be-obsolete dos. 1328 01:07:52,903 --> 01:07:56,204 Users are already rigging their machines to run with a cp/m operating system 1329 01:07:56,206 --> 01:07:57,672 that's been built to run on intel. 1330 01:07:57,674 --> 01:07:59,774 I can't put it more simply than this. 1331 01:07:59,776 --> 01:08:02,777 We need to put our resources into updating the apple ii. 1332 01:08:02,779 --> 01:08:05,413 By taking resources from the Mac. 1333 01:08:05,415 --> 01:08:06,915 It's failing. That's a fact. 1334 01:08:06,917 --> 01:08:08,950 It's overpriced. There's no evidence that it's-- 1335 01:08:08,952 --> 01:08:10,852 I'm the evidence! 1336 01:08:10,854 --> 01:08:13,655 I'm the world's leading expert on the Mac, John. What's your résumé? 1337 01:08:14,690 --> 01:08:16,591 You're issuing contradictory instructions, 1338 01:08:16,593 --> 01:08:18,593 you're insubordinate, you make people miserable. 1339 01:08:18,595 --> 01:08:21,763 Our top engineers are fleeing to sun, Dell, HP. 1340 01:08:21,765 --> 01:08:23,932 Wall street doesn't know who's driving the bus. 1341 01:08:23,934 --> 01:08:26,034 We've lost hundreds of millions in value. 1342 01:08:26,036 --> 01:08:29,571 And I'm the ceo of apple, Steve. That's my résumé. 1343 01:08:29,573 --> 01:08:32,373 But before that, you sold carbonated sugar water, right? 1344 01:08:32,375 --> 01:08:36,244 I sat in a fucking garage with wozniak and invented the future. 1345 01:08:36,246 --> 01:08:39,781 Because artists lead and hacks ask for a show of hands. 1346 01:08:39,783 --> 01:08:40,782 All right. 1347 01:08:40,784 --> 01:08:42,784 Well, this guy's out of control. 1348 01:08:42,786 --> 01:08:45,453 I'm perfectly willing to hand in my resignation tonight, 1349 01:08:45,455 --> 01:08:47,388 but if you want me to stay, you can't have Steve. 1350 01:08:47,390 --> 01:08:49,624 Settle him out. 1351 01:08:49,626 --> 01:08:52,760 He can keep a share of stock so he gets our newsletter. 1352 01:08:52,762 --> 01:08:55,296 He'll have to sever his connection to apple. 1353 01:08:55,298 --> 01:08:58,867 I'm dead serious. I want the secretary to call for a vote. 1354 01:09:00,936 --> 01:09:02,570 I fucking dare you. 1355 01:09:04,306 --> 01:09:09,644 You have done an outstanding job over the years of cultivating the press. 1356 01:09:09,646 --> 01:09:11,513 And by that, i mean manipulating them. 1357 01:09:11,515 --> 01:09:14,849 Because none of them, none of their editors, none of their editors' publishers 1358 01:09:14,851 --> 01:09:17,018 to this day know that you forced it, 1359 01:09:17,020 --> 01:09:18,987 that you forced the board. 1360 01:09:18,989 --> 01:09:21,156 Even after I told you exactly what they'd do, 1361 01:09:21,158 --> 01:09:23,291 which is exactly what they did. 1362 01:09:23,293 --> 01:09:24,592 Unanimously. 1363 01:09:25,794 --> 01:09:28,429 I don't have any trouble remembering that, John, 1364 01:09:28,431 --> 01:09:30,865 because of it being the worst night of my life. 1365 01:09:32,001 --> 01:09:35,136 And I forced the vote because I believed I was right. 1366 01:09:35,138 --> 01:09:37,739 - I still believe I'm right. - And I'm right. 1367 01:09:39,642 --> 01:09:41,342 Now I bled that night. 1368 01:09:41,344 --> 01:09:43,545 And I don't bleed. 1369 01:09:43,547 --> 01:09:45,180 But time's done its thing, 1370 01:09:45,182 --> 01:09:47,949 and I really haven't thought about it in a while. 1371 01:09:47,951 --> 01:09:52,520 Now, I absolutely understand why you're upset. 1372 01:09:52,522 --> 01:09:54,622 And I want people to know the truth too. 1373 01:09:54,624 --> 01:09:56,724 It's time. 1374 01:09:56,726 --> 01:09:58,626 Got it. 1375 01:09:58,628 --> 01:10:00,728 You're gonna end me, aren't you? 1376 01:10:00,730 --> 01:10:03,064 You're being ridiculous. 1377 01:10:03,066 --> 01:10:06,301 I'm gonna sit center court and watch you do it yourself. 1378 01:10:06,303 --> 01:10:10,071 Then I'm gonna order a nice meal with a '55 margaux and sign some autographs. 1379 01:10:10,073 --> 01:10:12,740 Jesus Christ. You want some advice, Pepsi generation? 1380 01:10:12,742 --> 01:10:15,410 Don't send woz out to slap me around in the press. 1381 01:10:15,412 --> 01:10:18,179 Anybody else-- you, markkula, Arthur rock. 1382 01:10:18,181 --> 01:10:19,814 Anyone but rain man. 1383 01:10:19,816 --> 01:10:22,217 Don't manipulate him like that. 1384 01:10:22,219 --> 01:10:25,453 Whatever you may think, I'm always gonna protect him. 1385 01:10:26,055 --> 01:10:27,622 Come on, Steve. 1386 01:10:29,391 --> 01:10:30,959 That's what men do. 1387 01:10:32,161 --> 01:10:33,995 We can't start late. 1388 01:10:45,908 --> 01:10:48,977 I don't think there was any way to detect a chip on my shoulder. 1389 01:10:50,679 --> 01:10:52,413 Did you know, back at bandley, 1390 01:10:52,415 --> 01:10:56,417 the Mac team gave an award every year to the person who could stand up to you? 1391 01:10:56,419 --> 01:10:57,585 No. 1392 01:10:57,587 --> 01:11:02,090 I won. Three years in a row. Cool. 1393 01:11:06,195 --> 01:11:07,695 This. 1394 01:11:07,697 --> 01:11:11,766 This-- this guy kawasaki in macworld. 1395 01:11:11,768 --> 01:11:14,469 He accidentally got it right, didn't he? 1396 01:11:14,471 --> 01:11:16,204 You've been dragging your feet on the next os 1397 01:11:16,206 --> 01:11:19,440 till you can figure out what apple's gonna need. 1398 01:11:21,111 --> 01:11:24,712 Even if that were true, it doesn't sound that diabolical to me. 1399 01:11:24,714 --> 01:11:26,314 Hey. We're ready for you. 1400 01:11:35,958 --> 01:11:39,327 I'm your closest confidante, your-- your best friend. 1401 01:11:39,329 --> 01:11:42,563 Your thing-- what do you call it? 1402 01:11:42,565 --> 01:11:44,766 Your work wife. The whole time. 1403 01:11:44,768 --> 01:11:46,768 The last three years. 1404 01:11:50,806 --> 01:11:55,543 When did you change your mind and start building the Steve Jobs revenge machine? 1405 01:11:59,449 --> 01:12:01,516 - House to half. 1406 01:12:01,518 --> 01:12:03,718 You remember skylab? 1407 01:12:05,988 --> 01:12:10,591 It was an unmanned satellite NASA sent up in the early '70s on a data gathering mission. 1408 01:12:11,827 --> 01:12:14,429 The thing is, when they sent it up, 1409 01:12:14,431 --> 01:12:17,098 they didn't know yet how they were gonna get it back. 1410 01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:19,133 But they felt like they were close enough 1411 01:12:19,135 --> 01:12:22,437 that in the eight years it was gonna be up there, they'd figure it out. 1412 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,005 They're on their way now. 1413 01:12:24,007 --> 01:12:25,673 They didn't. 1414 01:12:26,675 --> 01:12:28,776 So after eight years, it came crashing down 1415 01:12:28,778 --> 01:12:31,346 in a thousand-mile swath across the Indian ocean. 1416 01:12:31,348 --> 01:12:33,881 A little to the left, a little to the right, 1417 01:12:33,883 --> 01:12:35,850 somebody could have gotten hurt. 1418 01:12:35,852 --> 01:12:40,021 I really wanted to build a computer for colleges. 1419 01:12:40,023 --> 01:12:42,523 The technology just didn't catch up as fast as I needed it to. 1420 01:12:42,525 --> 01:12:44,859 You know we're out of money. 1421 01:12:44,861 --> 01:12:47,228 Ladies and gentlemen, the program will be starting momentarily. 1422 01:12:47,230 --> 01:12:50,365 But then apple stopped innovating, and I saw something better. 1423 01:12:50,367 --> 01:12:55,536 Joanna, I know schools aren't gonna buy a $13,000 dictionary with good speakers. 1424 01:12:55,538 --> 01:12:57,271 You know I know that. 1425 01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:01,209 But apple will. 1426 01:13:01,211 --> 01:13:04,679 'Cause avie tevanian is gonna build them exactly the os they need. 1427 01:13:04,681 --> 01:13:07,548 They're gonna have to buy me too. 1428 01:13:07,550 --> 01:13:13,154 For half a billion dollars in stock and end-to-end control on every product. 1429 01:13:44,386 --> 01:13:47,789 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome-- 1430 01:13:51,894 --> 01:13:55,229 more than a year after it was first unveiled to industry insiders, 1431 01:13:55,231 --> 01:13:57,899 the next computer is finally available in stores. 1432 01:13:57,901 --> 01:14:01,569 And it appears to be two strikes in a row for Steve Jobs. 1433 01:14:01,571 --> 01:14:03,104 Students and educators 1434 01:14:03,106 --> 01:14:06,240 are finding it difficult to justify the machine's high cost. 1435 01:14:06,242 --> 01:14:08,109 So much for the black cube. 1436 01:14:08,111 --> 01:14:13,047 Next just sold its factory to canon and laid off half its employees. 1437 01:14:13,049 --> 01:14:16,083 In the world of computers, it's kill or be killed. 1438 01:14:16,085 --> 01:14:18,252 Apple computer has fallen on hard times. 1439 01:14:18,254 --> 01:14:20,988 It is laying off about 2,500 people. 1440 01:14:20,990 --> 01:14:23,257 Apple is continuing to lose market share, 1441 01:14:23,259 --> 01:14:26,060 with no new innovations in the pipeline except the Newton, 1442 01:14:26,062 --> 01:14:28,463 a pet project of ceo John sculley. 1443 01:14:28,465 --> 01:14:31,799 If you really want to be mobile, you want a Newton PDA. 1444 01:14:31,801 --> 01:14:33,401 But then again, maybe you don't. 1445 01:14:33,403 --> 01:14:36,571 It turns handwriting into computer text. 1446 01:14:36,573 --> 01:14:40,174 Hey, dolph, take a memo on your Newton. "Beat up Martin." 1447 01:14:42,344 --> 01:14:44,178 - Bah! 1448 01:14:44,180 --> 01:14:46,914 In 1980, apple had 30% of the market. 1449 01:14:46,916 --> 01:14:49,584 Today, apple has only 3.2 percent. 1450 01:14:49,586 --> 01:14:53,054 That's it. John sculley has been fired from apple. 1451 01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:57,492 - What about this Internet thing? - Do you know anything about that? 1452 01:14:57,494 --> 01:14:59,227 It is the big new thing. 1453 01:15:00,429 --> 01:15:02,964 Rumors are flying around apple computer once again 1454 01:15:02,966 --> 01:15:04,499 over who will take over the helm. 1455 01:15:04,501 --> 01:15:07,335 In the news at this hour, a remarkable high-tech reunion. 1456 01:15:07,337 --> 01:15:09,871 Well, it's happening. In a billion-dollar shakeup, 1457 01:15:09,873 --> 01:15:13,007 apple is purchasing next computer's operating system, which may mean-- 1458 01:15:13,009 --> 01:15:15,510 is the prodigal son returning? Bet on it. 1459 01:15:15,512 --> 01:15:17,678 Guess what. Mac is back. 1460 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,380 - Apple cofounder Steven jobs-- - Steve Jobs-- 1461 01:15:19,382 --> 01:15:21,282 - Steve Jobs-- - Steve Jobs-- - Steve Jobs-- 1462 01:15:21,284 --> 01:15:23,417 Steve Jobs is returning to apple. 1463 01:15:25,454 --> 01:15:28,456 If you want to beam your digital photographs from your digital camera, 1464 01:15:28,458 --> 01:15:30,057 it's built into every product. 1465 01:15:30,059 --> 01:15:32,193 We're going to the new generation of i/o. 1466 01:15:32,195 --> 01:15:35,062 Twelve megabyte USB. Two ports. 1467 01:15:35,064 --> 01:15:37,532 We're leaving the old apple i/o behind. 1468 01:15:37,534 --> 01:15:40,334 Stereo surround sound built into every product, 1469 01:15:40,336 --> 01:15:44,305 a great keyboard and the coolest mouse you've ever seen. 1470 01:15:44,307 --> 01:15:48,376 This time, we used actual mice. 1471 01:15:48,378 --> 01:15:51,712 We're opening the house in 10 minutes. Steven? 1472 01:15:51,714 --> 01:15:53,514 Do you want to stop horsing around? 1473 01:15:53,516 --> 01:15:57,852 Bless my eyes. That's Steve wozniak sitting out there. 1474 01:16:00,857 --> 01:16:04,392 Give yourselves a treat and ask woz if he happens to have the correct time. 1475 01:16:04,394 --> 01:16:08,362 I have the correct time, and we're running out of it. 1476 01:16:08,364 --> 01:16:12,266 "A great keyboard"-- a great keyboard and the coolest mouse you've ever seen. 1477 01:16:12,268 --> 01:16:15,570 - This is what those things look like today. 1478 01:16:15,572 --> 01:16:20,408 Now, I'd like to show you what they're gonna look like tomorrow. 1479 01:16:20,410 --> 01:16:22,143 This is the iMac. 1480 01:16:54,243 --> 01:16:56,377 Why did I like that better than I usually do? 1481 01:16:56,379 --> 01:16:58,446 - I don't know. - Something was different. 1482 01:16:58,448 --> 01:17:00,081 Hey, stupid. 1483 01:17:00,083 --> 01:17:02,383 I think she's talking to one of you guys. 1484 01:17:02,385 --> 01:17:04,452 - Did you notice a difference? - That's what I'm-- 1485 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,755 the exit signs were off. 1486 01:17:07,757 --> 01:17:10,424 Full blackout. You did it. 1487 01:17:10,426 --> 01:17:12,627 We wired all the exit lights to our board. 1488 01:17:12,629 --> 01:17:15,296 They go out with the cue for seven seconds then come back on again. In theory. 1489 01:17:15,298 --> 01:17:18,966 - We think that's legal? - No, we're very certain it's not. 1490 01:17:18,968 --> 01:17:21,435 - You want to see some quotes? - Let's hold off on those. 1491 01:17:21,437 --> 01:17:23,137 - No, he'll like 'em. 1492 01:17:23,139 --> 01:17:26,207 - I'll show 'em to you later. - I'll take 'em now. 1493 01:17:28,010 --> 01:17:30,111 - I'm sorry. - Pick it up from there, please. 1494 01:17:30,113 --> 01:17:32,813 We only have a couple of minutes, so let's just do the 360. 1495 01:17:32,815 --> 01:17:36,317 We're gonna bring out a wireless camera we stole from panasonic. 1496 01:17:36,319 --> 01:17:39,487 I'll show you what this looks like. 1497 01:17:39,489 --> 01:17:42,356 The whole thing is translucent. You can see into it. 1498 01:17:42,358 --> 01:17:44,792 How's that for a compromise, woz? 1499 01:17:44,794 --> 01:17:48,496 You still can't get into it, but you can see into it. Fair enough. 1500 01:17:48,498 --> 01:17:52,199 We put stereo speakers in front, infrared right up here, 1501 01:17:52,201 --> 01:17:54,168 cd-rom drive in the middle. 1502 01:17:54,170 --> 01:17:56,837 Nice. Dual stereo headphone Jacks. 1503 01:17:56,839 --> 01:18:00,141 All the connectors are inside one beautiful little door here. 1504 01:18:00,143 --> 01:18:03,544 Ethernet. USB. 1505 01:18:03,546 --> 01:18:05,946 Even though this is a full-blooded macintosh, 1506 01:18:05,948 --> 01:18:07,715 we're targeting it for the number one use 1507 01:18:07,717 --> 01:18:10,351 the consumers tell us they want a computer for, which is-- 1508 01:18:10,353 --> 01:18:12,553 let's hold it, please. Hold it. 1509 01:18:12,555 --> 01:18:15,523 The answer was "the Internet." 1510 01:18:15,525 --> 01:18:17,091 Joanna? Yeah. 1511 01:18:18,860 --> 01:18:21,996 Stand in front of me. I want to look at these quotes, but I don't want Joel to know. 1512 01:18:21,998 --> 01:18:23,698 They're all great. 1513 01:18:25,867 --> 01:18:29,003 "It is not only the coolest-looking computer introduced in years 1514 01:18:29,005 --> 01:18:30,705 but a chest-thumping statement 1515 01:18:30,707 --> 01:18:35,142 that silicon valley's original dream company is no longer somnambulant." 1516 01:18:37,312 --> 01:18:38,979 It's a word. It means "sleepwalking." 1517 01:18:38,981 --> 01:18:42,416 Steve? I'm sorry. We have to clear the house if we're gonna start on time. 1518 01:18:42,418 --> 01:18:44,385 We're gonna start on time. We're absolutely starting on time. 1519 01:18:44,387 --> 01:18:46,187 Here. Take this. 1520 01:18:46,189 --> 01:18:50,024 Everybody, that's it. They've got to mop the stage, reset and open the house. 1521 01:18:50,026 --> 01:18:51,692 I love you guys. 1522 01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:01,602 Andy, come on back a minute. 1523 01:19:01,604 --> 01:19:03,437 - Which one? - Hertzfeld. 1524 01:19:10,345 --> 01:19:14,348 Forbes calls it an "industry-altering success." 1525 01:19:14,350 --> 01:19:16,016 Look here. 1526 01:19:18,854 --> 01:19:20,421 Why haven't we ever slept together? 1527 01:19:21,089 --> 01:19:22,623 We're not in love. Look. 1528 01:19:25,026 --> 01:19:27,795 Sculley. Look what he said. 1529 01:19:27,797 --> 01:19:33,267 "He has implemented the same simple strategy that made apple so successful 15 years ago-- 1530 01:19:33,269 --> 01:19:36,003 make hit products and promote them with terrific marketing." 1531 01:19:37,706 --> 01:19:40,040 It was nice of him. It was. 1532 01:19:40,042 --> 01:19:41,642 I meant it. 1533 01:19:41,644 --> 01:19:45,112 Sightings of j.D. Salinger are more common than John sculley. 1534 01:19:45,114 --> 01:19:48,382 I wasn't being sarcastic. It was nice of him. 1535 01:19:49,885 --> 01:19:51,952 Do you talk to him? No. 1536 01:19:51,954 --> 01:19:53,988 You haven't talked to him since '88? 1537 01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:55,523 I'd have told you if I did. 1538 01:19:56,658 --> 01:19:57,958 Doesn't matter. 1539 01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,560 I don't want people thinking they can cross me 1540 01:19:59,562 --> 01:20:02,196 and then, boom, 15 years later, I'm cool with it. 1541 01:20:02,998 --> 01:20:05,132 I was kidding. 1542 01:20:06,001 --> 01:20:08,135 What's wrong with you this morning? 1543 01:20:09,838 --> 01:20:11,572 Let's get off the stage. 1544 01:20:13,608 --> 01:20:16,744 "The only thing apple's providing now is leadership in colors." 1545 01:20:16,746 --> 01:20:18,345 Don't worry about it. 1546 01:20:18,347 --> 01:20:20,481 What does Bill Gates have against me? I don't know. 1547 01:20:20,483 --> 01:20:23,350 You're both out of your minds. Listen to me. 1548 01:20:23,352 --> 01:20:25,452 He dropped out of a better school than I dropped out of. 1549 01:20:25,454 --> 01:20:27,288 But he's a tool bag. I'll tell you why. 1550 01:20:27,290 --> 01:20:29,957 Make everything all right with Lisa. 1551 01:20:29,959 --> 01:20:33,194 You know, Joanna? Boundaries. 1552 01:20:33,196 --> 01:20:36,163 You've come to my apartment at 1:00 am and cleaned it. 1553 01:20:36,165 --> 01:20:37,665 So tell me where the boundary is. 1554 01:20:37,667 --> 01:20:39,600 There. Let's say it's there. 1555 01:20:39,602 --> 01:20:42,636 If I give you some real projections, 1556 01:20:42,638 --> 01:20:46,373 will you promise not to repeat them from the stage? 1557 01:20:46,375 --> 01:20:49,443 What do you mean, "real projections"? 1558 01:20:49,445 --> 01:20:52,279 What have you been giving me? Conservative projections. 1559 01:20:53,381 --> 01:20:54,949 Marketing's been lying to me? 1560 01:20:54,951 --> 01:20:58,786 We've been managing expectations so that you don't not. 1561 01:20:58,788 --> 01:21:00,621 What are the real projections? 1562 01:21:02,290 --> 01:21:05,125 We're gonna sell a million units in the first 90 days. 1563 01:21:05,127 --> 01:21:07,027 20,000 a month after that. 1564 01:21:07,029 --> 01:21:08,529 Holy shit. Yeah. 1565 01:21:08,531 --> 01:21:10,197 You see? You wait long enough and-- 1566 01:21:10,199 --> 01:21:12,700 what's more, 32% of the sales 1567 01:21:12,702 --> 01:21:16,737 are going to go to people buying a computer for the first time. 1568 01:21:16,739 --> 01:21:21,375 And 12% are going to people using some kind of windows machine. 1569 01:21:21,377 --> 01:21:23,744 That's what Bill Gates has against you. 1570 01:21:25,647 --> 01:21:28,549 And it'll be the fastest-selling computer in history. 1571 01:21:30,318 --> 01:21:32,353 You brought the company back from life support 1572 01:21:32,355 --> 01:21:35,422 after going through the misery of laying off 3,000 people 1573 01:21:35,424 --> 01:21:37,725 and cutting 70% of the product line. 1574 01:21:37,727 --> 01:21:40,661 So, Steven, it's over. 1575 01:21:42,731 --> 01:21:45,099 You're gonna win. 1576 01:21:45,101 --> 01:21:49,236 - It would be criminal not to enjoy this moment. - I'm enjoying it. 1577 01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:51,272 Make things all right with Lisa. 1578 01:21:51,274 --> 01:21:53,574 You know-- come on. 1579 01:21:53,576 --> 01:21:57,177 I don't like having less privacy than other people have. 1580 01:21:57,179 --> 01:22:00,881 Does being a multi-billionaire take some of the sting off that? No. 1581 01:22:00,883 --> 01:22:03,918 All Lisa did-- all Lisa did was give her blessing. 1582 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,588 Chrisann sold the house and-- and Lisa could have done what? 1583 01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:10,090 How was she supposed to stop her mother from selling her own house? 1584 01:22:10,092 --> 01:22:11,592 That I bought for the two of them. 1585 01:22:11,594 --> 01:22:13,193 How was she supposed to stop her? 1586 01:22:13,195 --> 01:22:16,530 Voicing an objection would have been a step in the right direction. 1587 01:22:16,532 --> 01:22:19,133 You don't think you're having a bizarre overreaction 1588 01:22:19,135 --> 01:22:22,770 to a 19-year-old girl allowing her mother to list her own house? 1589 01:22:22,772 --> 01:22:24,204 She could've tried. 1590 01:22:24,206 --> 01:22:27,708 Was she supposed to stop her mother, that particular mother-- 1591 01:22:27,710 --> 01:22:30,778 she gave chrisann her blessing to sell the house and she did it to spite me. 1592 01:22:30,780 --> 01:22:34,815 I don't care if she put a pipe bomb in the water heater. 1593 01:22:34,817 --> 01:22:37,584 You're going to fix it, now. 1594 01:22:37,586 --> 01:22:40,654 She's been acting weird for months. She's turned on me. 1595 01:22:40,656 --> 01:22:42,756 Fix it. What the-- 1596 01:22:42,758 --> 01:22:44,291 fix it, Steve. 1597 01:22:44,293 --> 01:22:45,926 Take it easy. Fix it or I quit. 1598 01:22:45,928 --> 01:22:47,962 How about that? I quit, and you never see me again. 1599 01:22:47,964 --> 01:22:49,563 How about that? 1600 01:22:51,466 --> 01:22:53,500 Tell me what's wrong with you this morning. 1601 01:22:54,436 --> 01:22:56,737 What's been wrong with me for 19 years. 1602 01:22:59,842 --> 01:23:03,243 I've been a witness, and I tell you, I've been complicit. 1603 01:23:05,180 --> 01:23:09,183 I love you, Steve. You know how much. 1604 01:23:09,185 --> 01:23:14,188 I love that you don't care how much money a person makes. You care what they make. 1605 01:23:14,190 --> 01:23:17,992 But what you make isn't supposed to be the best part of you. 1606 01:23:17,994 --> 01:23:20,761 When you're a father, 1607 01:23:20,763 --> 01:23:23,263 that's what's supposed to be the best part of you. 1608 01:23:23,265 --> 01:23:27,735 And it's caused me two decades of agony, Steve, that it is for you 1609 01:23:29,871 --> 01:23:31,572 the worst. 1610 01:23:32,774 --> 01:23:37,845 It's a little thing. It's a very small thing. 1611 01:23:39,347 --> 01:23:41,782 Fix it. 1612 01:23:41,784 --> 01:23:47,021 Fix it now, or you can contact me at my new job-- 1613 01:23:47,023 --> 01:23:49,690 working anywhere I want. 1614 01:23:51,626 --> 01:23:53,961 I don't happen to think it is a little deal. She knew that-- 1615 01:23:53,963 --> 01:23:56,196 - no. - I bought the house for the two of-- 1616 01:23:56,198 --> 01:23:57,798 - no. - What do you mean, "no"? 1617 01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,836 I mean no. The house has nothing to do with why you're angry at Lisa. 1618 01:24:02,838 --> 01:24:05,839 I assure you, the house has everything to do with why I'm angry at Lisa. 1619 01:24:05,841 --> 01:24:10,411 Have you ever heard the phrase "reality distortion field"? 1620 01:24:10,413 --> 01:24:14,648 - Yes. - As in "Steve's reality distortion field"? 1621 01:24:14,650 --> 01:24:17,518 I've heard it. I've read it. It's been sung to me by Joan baez. 1622 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,219 What you call a reality distortion field, 1623 01:24:19,221 --> 01:24:21,588 and I'm pretty sure you're the one who coined the phrase, 1624 01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:23,657 is the reason we're here. I know that. 1625 01:24:23,659 --> 01:24:26,026 If I traded in my bank account for a dollar 1626 01:24:26,028 --> 01:24:28,829 every time somebody told me something was impossible, I'd come out ahead. 1627 01:24:28,831 --> 01:24:30,864 I know that too. What's the problem? 1628 01:24:30,866 --> 01:24:33,867 My problem? It sure isn't the house. Jo, i-- 1629 01:24:33,869 --> 01:24:38,205 it's that you told her you weren't going to pay for Harvard. 1630 01:24:38,207 --> 01:24:40,240 That child. 1631 01:24:40,242 --> 01:24:42,743 That earnest, unironic kid. 1632 01:24:42,745 --> 01:24:44,745 She told you i wasn't paying her tuition? 1633 01:24:44,747 --> 01:24:47,347 I should have hit you with something heavy a long time ago. 1634 01:24:47,349 --> 01:24:50,017 Lisa told you i wasn't paying her tuition? 1635 01:24:50,019 --> 01:24:53,420 Andy told me that. Which one? 1636 01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:56,190 Hertzfeld. 1637 01:24:56,192 --> 01:24:57,791 How would hertzfeld know? 1638 01:24:57,793 --> 01:25:01,862 He wrote Harvard a check for 25,000 to cover the semester. 1639 01:25:01,864 --> 01:25:04,765 Are you fucking-- he paid her tuition? 1640 01:25:04,767 --> 01:25:07,601 Isn't that why you just asked to see him? 1641 01:25:07,603 --> 01:25:09,103 No, I asked to see him about something-- 1642 01:25:09,105 --> 01:25:12,606 did you tell her you weren't going to pay for college? 1643 01:25:12,608 --> 01:25:14,608 Yes, because-- how could you do that? 1644 01:25:14,610 --> 01:25:17,911 Because her mother, who is also her landlord-- 1645 01:25:17,913 --> 01:25:19,880 hertzfeld? I was ranting. 1646 01:25:19,882 --> 01:25:22,316 I was just, you know-- i was talking. You think I would-- 1647 01:25:22,318 --> 01:25:26,453 I was pissed off because Lisa was trying to piss me off, Joanna. 1648 01:25:26,455 --> 01:25:27,955 That was her intent. I don't know-- 1649 01:25:27,957 --> 01:25:30,424 you obviously scared the hell out of her. 1650 01:25:30,426 --> 01:25:33,560 Hertzfeld wrote a check to Harvard, pay for-- 1651 01:25:35,130 --> 01:25:36,930 is she here yet? I'm sure she is. 1652 01:25:36,932 --> 01:25:38,632 Can you have someone bring her back? 1653 01:25:39,134 --> 01:25:41,068 Yes. 1654 01:25:42,304 --> 01:25:43,904 Thank you. 1655 01:25:47,742 --> 01:25:49,076 You know, 1656 01:25:50,945 --> 01:25:52,579 my grandmother always used to say to me-- 1657 01:25:52,581 --> 01:25:54,548 I don't give a shit, yentl. 1658 01:25:56,618 --> 01:25:58,652 I'll have someone get Lisa. Thank you. 1659 01:25:58,654 --> 01:26:00,988 - And if you see hertzfeld-- 1660 01:26:00,990 --> 01:26:02,923 it's Andy. 1661 01:26:02,925 --> 01:26:05,058 Speak of the devil's chief engineer. 1662 01:26:06,094 --> 01:26:07,161 Go. 1663 01:26:07,163 --> 01:26:08,896 Come on in. 1664 01:26:11,199 --> 01:26:13,167 You look great today. 1665 01:26:13,169 --> 01:26:14,768 Thank you. Doesn't she? 1666 01:26:14,770 --> 01:26:18,005 She looks fantastic. Always does. Get out. 1667 01:26:20,175 --> 01:26:22,943 - Well, I think I know why I'm here. - Do you? 1668 01:26:22,945 --> 01:26:23,844 Steve-- 1669 01:26:23,846 --> 01:26:26,446 did you send the check yet? Yes. 1670 01:26:26,448 --> 01:26:29,716 So Harvard got a tuition check from Andy hertzfeld to pay for Lisa? 1671 01:26:29,718 --> 01:26:31,785 I don't think they look that carefully. 1672 01:26:31,787 --> 01:26:34,655 I don't think they'd notice the check didn't come from you. 1673 01:26:34,657 --> 01:26:37,524 Close one. This was almost embarrassing for me. 1674 01:26:37,526 --> 01:26:39,459 I understand how-- 1675 01:26:39,461 --> 01:26:41,161 I'll wire you the money today. 1676 01:26:41,163 --> 01:26:44,631 I-i understand how you feel. And I do apologize. I do. 1677 01:26:44,633 --> 01:26:46,967 But let me tell you my thinking. 1678 01:26:46,969 --> 01:26:49,536 I can't even think of an appropriate analogy to describe what you did. 1679 01:26:49,538 --> 01:26:52,172 I knew you guys would fix things. You always do. 1680 01:26:52,174 --> 01:26:55,909 But in the meantime, if the money wasn't there, she'd miss a semester of school. 1681 01:26:55,911 --> 01:26:58,612 Yeah. And she'd have to tell her friends why. 1682 01:26:59,581 --> 01:27:02,182 And she needed things. She needed socks. 1683 01:27:02,184 --> 01:27:06,220 What? It's cold in Cambridge. She needed warm socks. 1684 01:27:06,222 --> 01:27:09,990 You gave her socks? Well, I gave her money for socks. 1685 01:27:11,192 --> 01:27:14,328 You don't get to deputize yourself as her interim. 1686 01:27:14,330 --> 01:27:16,863 You don't get to override my decisions. Do you understand? 1687 01:27:16,865 --> 01:27:19,066 You don't get to act like you're her father. 1688 01:27:19,068 --> 01:27:21,535 Somebody had to. 1689 01:27:21,537 --> 01:27:23,670 What the fuck did you just say to me? 1690 01:27:23,672 --> 01:27:26,173 I've known her since she was six. 1691 01:27:27,508 --> 01:27:29,743 I also consider-- 1692 01:27:29,745 --> 01:27:35,082 chrisann's my friend, outside of what you and i-- outside of our relationship. 1693 01:27:35,084 --> 01:27:37,784 So you're like a family adviser. I'm a family friend. 1694 01:27:37,786 --> 01:27:40,420 Then you probably know that Lisa's been seeing a therapist. 1695 01:27:40,422 --> 01:27:42,122 Yeah. For many years. 1696 01:27:42,124 --> 01:27:43,957 Yeah. Without my knowledge. 1697 01:27:45,793 --> 01:27:47,628 That really wasn't my business. 1698 01:27:47,630 --> 01:27:51,031 I'm fascinated by what you think is and isn't your business. 1699 01:27:51,033 --> 01:27:53,967 Lisa's been going to a therapist and she likes it 1700 01:27:55,203 --> 01:27:58,739 and would love for you and chrisann to go with her. 1701 01:27:58,741 --> 01:28:03,277 And the reason you know that is because you're the one that recommended the therapist. 1702 01:28:03,279 --> 01:28:05,379 Well, I know a guy. 1703 01:28:05,381 --> 01:28:08,949 No, I mean you're the one who recommended that she see a therapist. 1704 01:28:10,451 --> 01:28:14,955 You know what? It was a while ago, and I don't remember how the whole-- 1705 01:28:14,957 --> 01:28:18,058 you told chrisann that Lisa should see a therapist. 1706 01:28:18,060 --> 01:28:21,228 Steve, you're stigmatizing. It's a perfectly norm-- 1707 01:28:21,230 --> 01:28:23,430 it's not-- 1708 01:28:23,432 --> 01:28:25,499 my thing was, how can it hurt? 1709 01:28:25,501 --> 01:28:27,167 Let's find out. 1710 01:28:28,569 --> 01:28:30,103 Chrisann is my friend. 1711 01:28:30,105 --> 01:28:33,307 What was the reason you gave? You mean-- 1712 01:28:33,309 --> 01:28:37,477 what was the reason you gave chrisann why Lisa should see a therapist? 1713 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,646 I don't remember. We were talking and I said-- 1714 01:28:39,648 --> 01:28:42,549 it's pretty much what I just said, that it certainly couldn't hurt. 1715 01:28:44,452 --> 01:28:47,554 You didn't say that Lisa needed a strong male role model? 1716 01:28:55,029 --> 01:28:56,196 I did. 1717 01:29:03,204 --> 01:29:08,175 I think it's a miracle she's not robbing banks with the symbionese liberation army. 1718 01:29:11,279 --> 01:29:15,115 There's no reason in the world why she should be nice. 1719 01:29:16,317 --> 01:29:18,018 But she is. 1720 01:29:20,822 --> 01:29:25,125 So I helped, because somebody had to. 1721 01:29:31,232 --> 01:29:33,600 I'll wire the money to you this afternoon. 1722 01:29:45,847 --> 01:29:48,215 You threatened me a long time ago. 1723 01:29:49,050 --> 01:29:50,317 Sorry? 1724 01:29:52,687 --> 01:29:55,822 A long time ago-- you threatened me once. 1725 01:29:55,824 --> 01:29:57,891 People are attracted to people with talent. 1726 01:29:57,893 --> 01:30:00,160 People without it find that threatening. 1727 01:30:00,162 --> 01:30:02,229 Maybe you should see a therapist. 1728 01:30:02,231 --> 01:30:03,797 Certainly couldn't hurt. 1729 01:30:04,732 --> 01:30:07,167 I meant you literally threatened me. 1730 01:30:07,169 --> 01:30:09,569 At flint, right before the Mac launch. 1731 01:30:09,571 --> 01:30:11,938 I was recompiling. I was trying to debug the voice demo. 1732 01:30:11,940 --> 01:30:16,376 You said if I couldn't find a solution, you'd call me out in front of the audience. 1733 01:30:16,378 --> 01:30:18,712 - Did it say "hello"? - It did. 1734 01:30:18,714 --> 01:30:20,981 No need to thank me. 1735 01:30:22,216 --> 01:30:24,684 Why do you want people to dislike you? 1736 01:30:25,953 --> 01:30:29,189 I don't want people to dislike me. 1737 01:30:29,191 --> 01:30:31,758 I'm indifferent to whether they dislike me. 1738 01:30:33,761 --> 01:30:36,363 Since it doesn't matter, i always have. 1739 01:30:38,099 --> 01:30:39,433 Really? 1740 01:30:41,302 --> 01:30:45,138 I've always liked you a lot. That's too bad. 1741 01:30:47,642 --> 01:30:50,177 Knock 'em dead. Thank you. 1742 01:31:12,333 --> 01:31:17,070 What is remarkable, what's hard to fathom but true, 1743 01:31:17,072 --> 01:31:22,909 is that for a given clock rate, a powerpc chip is twice as fast as a pentium ii chip. 1744 01:31:36,324 --> 01:31:37,991 In other words, 1745 01:31:39,527 --> 01:31:42,195 a 266 megahertz g3 chip 1746 01:31:42,197 --> 01:31:47,334 is twice as fast as a 266 megahertz pentium ii. 1747 01:31:50,671 --> 01:31:55,008 Or... a 266 g3 1748 01:31:55,010 --> 01:31:57,844 is equal to about 500 megahertz. 1749 01:31:59,146 --> 01:32:01,181 Do you know what a coincidence is, Lisa? 1750 01:32:02,283 --> 01:32:04,851 Take a look at byte magazine's byte marks, 1751 01:32:04,853 --> 01:32:07,120 the gold standard for any-- 1752 01:32:12,126 --> 01:32:15,095 - come in. 1753 01:32:18,466 --> 01:32:21,067 I sent someone into the lobby. 1754 01:32:21,069 --> 01:32:22,869 They found her, and she-- where is she? 1755 01:32:22,871 --> 01:32:25,705 She said she'd rather not come back. 1756 01:32:25,707 --> 01:32:28,174 - Why? - That was it. 1757 01:32:28,176 --> 01:32:31,177 - I'm going out there myself. - You can't. You can't. 1758 01:32:31,179 --> 01:32:32,879 It'll be a scene out of hard day's night. 1759 01:32:35,716 --> 01:32:38,184 - Excuse me. - Hey, Joel. 1760 01:32:38,186 --> 01:32:39,986 Andy said it was okay to come back. 1761 01:32:39,988 --> 01:32:42,222 - Which one? - Andy Cunningham. 1762 01:32:43,658 --> 01:32:46,593 I can't do this forever. I need one of them to change their name. 1763 01:32:46,595 --> 01:32:48,728 You call Andy Cunningham "Andrea." 1764 01:32:48,730 --> 01:32:50,230 It doesn't matter what I call them. 1765 01:32:50,232 --> 01:32:51,898 I know who I'm talking about when I'm talking. 1766 01:32:51,900 --> 01:32:53,733 I need everyone else to call them different names. 1767 01:32:53,735 --> 01:32:55,468 Give me one second. 1768 01:33:00,107 --> 01:33:02,576 Can you go get her for me, please? 1769 01:33:02,578 --> 01:33:04,411 I just talked to Andy. 1770 01:33:04,413 --> 01:33:06,112 Hertzfeld. 1771 01:33:06,114 --> 01:33:08,481 I'm just trying to scrub this out of my brain with drano. 1772 01:33:09,417 --> 01:33:11,685 But I do want to talk to Lisa. 1773 01:33:11,687 --> 01:33:13,420 Okay. Just-- 1774 01:33:14,355 --> 01:33:16,156 stay cool. Okay. 1775 01:33:18,859 --> 01:33:20,193 Thank you. 1776 01:33:28,202 --> 01:33:29,536 Hey, Steve. 1777 01:33:42,416 --> 01:33:45,619 How are you feeling? I'm feeling good, Joel. How about you? 1778 01:33:45,621 --> 01:33:48,455 I don't think I could be in your business. It changes too quickly. 1779 01:33:48,457 --> 01:33:51,625 Well, I'd hang on, 'cause yours is about to start changing pretty quickly too. 1780 01:33:51,627 --> 01:33:54,828 This is the third time in 14 years I'm writing about you. 1781 01:33:54,830 --> 01:33:58,331 What do you think so far? 1782 01:33:58,333 --> 01:34:02,068 Excuse me. Avie's looking for you. He has a new shark. 1783 01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:04,070 You wanna come backstage for a second? Sure. 1784 01:34:07,775 --> 01:34:11,011 Who's this one? Alan turing. 1785 01:34:11,013 --> 01:34:14,681 Single-handedly won world war ii and, for an encore, invented the computer. 1786 01:34:14,683 --> 01:34:16,950 He won't be part of the campaign though. Why not? 1787 01:34:16,952 --> 01:34:18,918 'Cause you just had to ask me who he was. 1788 01:34:20,655 --> 01:34:22,322 Can I see new shark? 1789 01:34:25,292 --> 01:34:27,494 I like it better than the old shark. 1790 01:34:27,496 --> 01:34:29,029 Sharks. Sharks. 1791 01:34:29,031 --> 01:34:30,930 How many sharks did you go through? A couple. 1792 01:34:30,932 --> 01:34:34,668 This is the 39th. We're on the record. 1793 01:34:34,670 --> 01:34:37,504 Thirty-nine sharks. Okay. 1794 01:34:37,506 --> 01:34:39,606 You know what's special about this shark? What? 1795 01:34:39,608 --> 01:34:44,177 No, I'm really asking, because it looks exactly like the other 38 sharks to me. 1796 01:34:44,179 --> 01:34:46,179 Let me see it with the cue, from the profile. 1797 01:34:46,181 --> 01:34:48,014 This is cue 92-b. 1798 01:34:48,016 --> 01:34:52,285 This is a profile here, and this is what it looks like from the back. 1799 01:34:52,287 --> 01:34:56,056 And one more thing. It eats pentium notebooks as a light snack. 1800 01:34:57,024 --> 01:34:58,925 This is the shark. 1801 01:35:00,127 --> 01:35:02,462 I really like it. 1802 01:35:02,464 --> 01:35:04,197 Nobody gets it right the first time, 1803 01:35:04,199 --> 01:35:06,700 but I should have been shown this shark 15, 20 fish ago. 1804 01:35:06,702 --> 01:35:08,568 - You probably were. - Lock it in. 1805 01:35:08,570 --> 01:35:10,370 Ten minutes. 1806 01:35:10,372 --> 01:35:13,973 He killed himself by taking a bite of a poison apple-- Alan turing. 1807 01:35:14,742 --> 01:35:15,909 Yeah. 1808 01:35:15,911 --> 01:35:18,678 There should be statues of that man. 1809 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,880 His name should be on the lips of schoolchildren. 1810 01:35:20,882 --> 01:35:24,584 The rainbow flag apple with a bite taken out-- that's where it came from? 1811 01:35:24,586 --> 01:35:27,420 No, we picked it off a list of friendly-sounding words. 1812 01:35:27,422 --> 01:35:30,390 But wouldn't it be great if that had been the story behind it? 1813 01:35:30,392 --> 01:35:33,893 Steve. Kinda liked the last shark. 1814 01:35:33,895 --> 01:35:35,829 Fuck you. 1815 01:35:35,831 --> 01:35:37,564 I wanted to ask you a favor. 1816 01:35:37,566 --> 01:35:38,932 My friend, a long time ago, 1817 01:35:38,934 --> 01:35:41,534 you asked me a favor before a product launch, and I said no. 1818 01:35:41,536 --> 01:35:43,837 - You wanted me to acknowledge-- - hang on. 1819 01:35:43,839 --> 01:35:48,174 If you're about to say you were wrong, I want to prepare this journalist. 1820 01:35:48,176 --> 01:35:52,579 I was 100% right, and you were spectacularly wrong. 1821 01:35:52,581 --> 01:35:54,948 But I still owe you a favor, so name it. 1822 01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:56,783 Steve-- 1823 01:35:56,785 --> 01:36:00,320 - it can't be acknowledging the apple ii team. - Acknowledge the apple ii team. 1824 01:36:01,255 --> 01:36:03,022 - How about in private? - No. 1825 01:36:03,024 --> 01:36:04,557 - Is this a prank? - No. 1826 01:36:04,559 --> 01:36:06,726 I'm trying to remember that a 300 megahertz g3 chip-- 1827 01:36:06,728 --> 01:36:08,495 just the top guys. 1828 01:36:11,265 --> 01:36:12,599 Steve. 1829 01:36:15,936 --> 01:36:17,637 - Excuse me, okay? - Yep. 1830 01:36:17,639 --> 01:36:19,005 One second. 1831 01:36:22,643 --> 01:36:26,913 She said she'd rather not. What do you mean? 1832 01:36:26,915 --> 01:36:30,316 She's sitting with her friends, and she said she'd rather not come back. 1833 01:36:30,318 --> 01:36:32,318 Okay. Tell her-- take her aside. 1834 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,320 I don't want to embarrass her in front of her friends. 1835 01:36:34,322 --> 01:36:36,623 But tell her I just scared the shit out of Andy, 1836 01:36:36,625 --> 01:36:38,725 and this time, nobody's paying her fucking-- 1837 01:36:40,394 --> 01:36:42,462 all right. Don't say that. 1838 01:36:42,464 --> 01:36:44,964 But do your thing where you sound old and wise 1839 01:36:44,966 --> 01:36:48,301 because of the broad, tragic European canvas of your life. 1840 01:36:48,303 --> 01:36:51,137 You know I wasn't born in a 19th-century shtetl, right? 1841 01:36:51,139 --> 01:36:53,339 Please tell her it's important. 1842 01:36:53,341 --> 01:36:55,809 - Everything all right? - Yeah. 1843 01:36:55,811 --> 01:36:57,577 - There are people around here, man-- - I know. 1844 01:36:57,579 --> 01:37:00,380 - Including a member of the press. - I see him. 1845 01:37:01,482 --> 01:37:02,782 Woz. 1846 01:37:02,784 --> 01:37:05,385 Just the top guys, the ones who are getting laid off. 1847 01:37:06,954 --> 01:37:09,289 Listen, okay? 1848 01:37:09,291 --> 01:37:14,194 Last year, apple lost one billion dollars. 1849 01:37:14,196 --> 01:37:16,162 I don't even know how that's possible. 1850 01:37:16,164 --> 01:37:18,765 You were less than 90 days from being insolvent. 1851 01:37:18,767 --> 01:37:21,501 I had three different accountants try to explain it to me. 1852 01:37:21,503 --> 01:37:24,504 The whole place has to be streamlined. 1853 01:37:24,506 --> 01:37:27,006 - Start with two of the accountants. - I started with the-- 1854 01:37:27,008 --> 01:37:30,043 - Joel, could you come offstage? We're gonna go backstage. - Leave him right there. 1855 01:37:30,045 --> 01:37:34,514 I started with the apple ii team because we don't make that anymore. 1856 01:37:34,516 --> 01:37:38,184 - Just acknowledge the top guys. - Have a mimosa and relax. 1857 01:37:38,186 --> 01:37:40,820 You will not blow me off right now, Steve. 1858 01:37:40,822 --> 01:37:43,523 - The top guys deserve-- - there are no top guys. 1859 01:37:43,525 --> 01:37:46,025 All right? On the apple ii team, there are no top guys. 1860 01:37:46,027 --> 01:37:49,562 They're "b" players, and "b" players discourage the "a" players. 1861 01:37:49,564 --> 01:37:51,531 I want "a" players at apple and not Dell. 1862 01:37:51,533 --> 01:37:54,200 They're not "b" players, and I'm a better judge of that. 1863 01:37:54,202 --> 01:37:56,803 Less than 90 days from insolvency, 1864 01:37:56,805 --> 01:38:00,506 in part because somebody thought the Newton wasn't a box of garbage. 1865 01:38:00,508 --> 01:38:02,041 Joel, could you come offstage, please? Leave him. 1866 01:38:02,043 --> 01:38:03,710 I'm talking about-- 1867 01:38:03,712 --> 01:38:06,079 you guys designed and shipped a little box of garbage while I was gone. 1868 01:38:06,081 --> 01:38:07,680 I'm talking about the apple ii, 1869 01:38:07,682 --> 01:38:10,416 which is not just a crucial part of this company's history, 1870 01:38:10,418 --> 01:38:12,886 it is a crucial part of the history of personal computing. 1871 01:38:12,888 --> 01:38:14,721 For a time. 1872 01:38:14,723 --> 01:38:17,223 The least you can do, if you're going to downsize these people-- 1873 01:38:17,225 --> 01:38:19,993 they're gonna live in the biggest houses of anyone on the unemployment line. 1874 01:38:19,995 --> 01:38:24,364 Is to acknowledge them. Acknowledge them and the apple ii during this launch. 1875 01:38:24,366 --> 01:38:26,165 This is a new animal. 1876 01:38:26,167 --> 01:38:30,003 This whole place was built by the apple ii. You were built by the apple ii. 1877 01:38:30,005 --> 01:38:33,072 As a matter of fact, I was destroyed by the apple ii and its open system 1878 01:38:33,074 --> 01:38:34,908 so that hackers and hobbyists 1879 01:38:34,910 --> 01:38:38,511 could build ham radios or something. 1880 01:38:38,513 --> 01:38:40,246 And then it nearly destroyed apple 1881 01:38:40,248 --> 01:38:42,282 when you spent all your money on it 1882 01:38:42,284 --> 01:38:45,618 and developed a grand total of no new products. 1883 01:38:45,620 --> 01:38:47,587 - The Newton. - The little box of garbage. 1884 01:38:47,589 --> 01:38:51,157 You guys came up with the Newton. You want people to know that? 1885 01:38:53,594 --> 01:38:56,930 This is a product launch, not a luncheon. 1886 01:38:56,932 --> 01:38:59,065 The last thing I want to do is connect the iMac to-- 1887 01:38:59,067 --> 01:39:02,035 to the only successful product that this company has ever made. 1888 01:39:02,037 --> 01:39:05,571 I'm sorry to be blunt, but that happens to be the truth. 1889 01:39:05,573 --> 01:39:09,542 The Lisa was a failure. The macintosh was a failure. 1890 01:39:09,544 --> 01:39:11,611 I don't like talking like this, 1891 01:39:11,613 --> 01:39:15,315 but I am tired of being Ringo when I know I was John. 1892 01:39:16,283 --> 01:39:17,784 Everybody loves Ringo. 1893 01:39:17,786 --> 01:39:20,320 And I'm tired of being patronized by you. 1894 01:39:22,623 --> 01:39:25,158 You think John became John by winning a raffle, woz? 1895 01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:26,626 You think he tricked somebody 1896 01:39:26,628 --> 01:39:29,128 or hit George Harrison over the head? 1897 01:39:29,130 --> 01:39:31,064 He was John because he was John. 1898 01:39:31,066 --> 01:39:35,468 He was John 'cause he wrote "ticket to ride." And I wrote the apple ii. 1899 01:39:35,470 --> 01:39:38,571 - Everybody? I want to clear the auditorium. - Nobody moves. 1900 01:39:41,308 --> 01:39:43,109 You made a beautiful board, 1901 01:39:43,111 --> 01:39:45,278 which, by the way, you were willing to give out for free, 1902 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,347 so don't tell me how you built apple. 1903 01:39:47,349 --> 01:39:49,849 If it weren't for me, you'd be the easiest "a" at homestead high school. 1904 01:39:49,851 --> 01:39:53,987 These people live and die by your praise, so here's your chance. 1905 01:39:53,989 --> 01:39:58,725 Acknowledge that something good happened that you weren't in the room for. 1906 01:40:02,196 --> 01:40:04,497 No. Steve. 1907 01:40:04,499 --> 01:40:08,668 Do it. It's right. It's-- 1908 01:40:10,771 --> 01:40:12,171 it's right. 1909 01:40:12,173 --> 01:40:14,340 Sorry, but no. 1910 01:40:14,342 --> 01:40:17,844 Then let me put it another way. 1911 01:40:17,846 --> 01:40:20,713 I don't think there's a man who's done more to advance 1912 01:40:20,715 --> 01:40:24,150 the democratization that comes with personal computing than I have, 1913 01:40:24,152 --> 01:40:25,852 but you've never had any respect for me. 1914 01:40:25,854 --> 01:40:27,420 Now why is that? 1915 01:40:29,056 --> 01:40:30,523 I'd at least consider the possibility 1916 01:40:30,525 --> 01:40:32,558 that it's because you've never had any for me. 1917 01:40:34,962 --> 01:40:36,629 What the hell is going on here? 1918 01:40:36,631 --> 01:40:39,632 Nothing. Thank you for your time. 1919 01:40:43,570 --> 01:40:45,304 It's done. She's coming back. 1920 01:40:46,707 --> 01:40:48,875 You came a half-inch from putting this company out of business. 1921 01:40:50,878 --> 01:40:52,612 Now who do I see about that? 1922 01:40:54,081 --> 01:40:56,349 I'm letting you keep your job. 1923 01:40:56,351 --> 01:40:58,284 You get a pass. 1924 01:41:01,221 --> 01:41:02,722 You know, when people used to ask me 1925 01:41:02,724 --> 01:41:05,191 what the difference was between me and Steve Jobs, 1926 01:41:05,193 --> 01:41:08,327 I would say Steve was the big-picture guy 1927 01:41:08,329 --> 01:41:10,229 and I liked a solid workbench. 1928 01:41:10,231 --> 01:41:12,231 When people ask me what the difference is now, 1929 01:41:12,233 --> 01:41:14,767 I say "Steve's an asshole." 1930 01:41:14,769 --> 01:41:17,537 Your products are better than you are, brother. 1931 01:41:17,539 --> 01:41:19,505 That's the idea, brother. 1932 01:41:20,507 --> 01:41:23,443 And knowing that, that's the difference. 1933 01:41:24,278 --> 01:41:27,280 It's not binary. 1934 01:41:27,282 --> 01:41:30,450 You can be decent and gifted at the same time. 1935 01:41:52,606 --> 01:41:54,774 He didn't mean it. 1936 01:41:54,776 --> 01:41:56,342 Yeah, he did. 1937 01:41:59,246 --> 01:42:00,880 He's a temperamental guy. 1938 01:42:02,449 --> 01:42:04,016 No, he's not. 1939 01:42:07,788 --> 01:42:11,324 It's like five minutes before every launch, 1940 01:42:11,326 --> 01:42:15,561 everyone goes to a bar, gets drunk and tells me what they really think. 1941 01:42:15,563 --> 01:42:17,897 She's coming to your dressing room. 1942 01:42:28,976 --> 01:42:31,244 I told you to make things all right with Lisa. 1943 01:42:31,246 --> 01:42:34,614 I didn't say you had to settle every blood feud you have. 1944 01:42:34,616 --> 01:42:38,651 Last time blood feuds weren't settled, i lost the cover of time. 1945 01:42:38,653 --> 01:42:42,288 Though for the life of me, i still don't know what the hell Dan kottke was mad at me about. 1946 01:42:42,290 --> 01:42:45,124 Kottke didn't lose you the cover of time. Of course he did. 1947 01:42:45,126 --> 01:42:47,660 Would you like me to demonstrate your capacity to be wrong 1948 01:42:47,662 --> 01:42:49,162 when you're certain you're right? 1949 01:42:49,164 --> 01:42:51,764 Dan kottke told time magazine that I was denying-- 1950 01:42:51,766 --> 01:42:53,466 do you remember the cover? 1951 01:42:53,468 --> 01:42:55,134 Of time? Yes. 1952 01:42:55,136 --> 01:42:56,836 Yes. What was it? 1953 01:42:56,838 --> 01:42:58,938 What are you talking about? What was on the cover? 1954 01:42:58,940 --> 01:43:00,439 A computer. No. 1955 01:43:00,441 --> 01:43:02,942 It was a sculpture of a computer. 1956 01:43:02,944 --> 01:43:05,077 It was a sculpture. 1957 01:43:06,547 --> 01:43:09,782 Time would have had to have commissioned it months in advance. 1958 01:43:09,784 --> 01:43:12,018 You were never in the conversation for man of the year. 1959 01:43:12,020 --> 01:43:13,653 Nobody lost you anything. 1960 01:43:13,655 --> 01:43:15,488 ...picture of me and the Mac. 1961 01:43:15,490 --> 01:43:18,524 So what else are you sure about? 1962 01:43:18,526 --> 01:43:20,526 I don't know how i could've missed that. 1963 01:43:21,395 --> 01:43:23,462 Reality distortion. No, seriously. 1964 01:43:23,464 --> 01:43:24,697 Seriously. 1965 01:43:24,699 --> 01:43:27,466 Don't try to win an argument with Lisa. 1966 01:43:27,468 --> 01:43:29,969 Just say you were wrong. 1967 01:43:30,637 --> 01:43:32,205 Come on in, honey. 1968 01:43:33,807 --> 01:43:36,209 - It's not "honey." - John. 1969 01:43:36,211 --> 01:43:38,477 Get in. Get in. Get out of the hall. 1970 01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,012 I was taken in a side entrance. 1971 01:43:40,014 --> 01:43:41,881 I'll go out the same way. No one will see me. 1972 01:43:41,883 --> 01:43:44,383 How are you, Joanna? I'm good, John. 1973 01:43:44,385 --> 01:43:47,053 I'm just surprised to see you. 1974 01:43:47,055 --> 01:43:49,555 Everyone here really appreciates the quote you gave to Forbes. 1975 01:43:49,557 --> 01:43:52,325 You didn't have to do that. My pleasure. 1976 01:43:52,327 --> 01:43:55,361 If you want, i can slip you in the back once the house lights go out. 1977 01:43:55,363 --> 01:43:58,064 I'm just here to say "good luck." - Okay. 1978 01:43:59,833 --> 01:44:01,834 You just have a couple of minutes. 1979 01:44:01,836 --> 01:44:03,669 Would you try to find-- yeah. 1980 01:44:08,242 --> 01:44:10,076 You're a good man, John. 1981 01:44:22,789 --> 01:44:24,824 So I brought you a present. 1982 01:44:25,959 --> 01:44:27,793 A Newton. 1983 01:44:27,795 --> 01:44:32,098 Don't take it out of the box, you'll be able to sell it, which is more than I can say. 1984 01:44:33,300 --> 01:44:35,268 Everything all right there? 1985 01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:37,603 Uh, no-- 1986 01:44:37,605 --> 01:44:40,606 just something Joanna pointed out to me. 1987 01:44:40,608 --> 01:44:42,608 I missed something so obvious about-- 1988 01:44:43,944 --> 01:44:45,144 doesn't matter. 1989 01:44:47,447 --> 01:44:51,050 Look, wall street's gonna sit back and wait to see how you do as ceo, 1990 01:44:51,052 --> 01:44:53,886 so don't let any fluctuation bother you for the first 12 months. 1991 01:44:53,888 --> 01:44:55,955 Day traders are gonna respond. 1992 01:44:57,291 --> 01:44:58,858 I don't need to school you. 1993 01:45:00,460 --> 01:45:02,728 This your way of telling me I shouldn't have killed the Newton? 1994 01:45:02,730 --> 01:45:07,266 The most efficient animal on the planet is the condor. 1995 01:45:07,268 --> 01:45:10,002 The most inefficient animals on the planet are humans. 1996 01:45:10,004 --> 01:45:12,738 Well, you shouldn't have killed it for spite. 1997 01:45:12,740 --> 01:45:14,840 That's bad business. Don't do that. 1998 01:45:16,276 --> 01:45:21,480 But a human with a bicycle becomes the most efficient animal. 1999 01:45:21,482 --> 01:45:23,649 And the right computer-- 2000 01:45:23,651 --> 01:45:26,419 a friendly, easy computer that isn't an eyesore 2001 01:45:26,421 --> 01:45:30,990 but rather sits on your desk with the beauty of a tensor lamp-- 2002 01:45:30,992 --> 01:45:34,660 the right computer will be a bicycle for the mind. 2003 01:45:35,996 --> 01:45:37,563 Do you like it? 2004 01:45:38,498 --> 01:45:41,000 I was giving back. 2005 01:45:41,002 --> 01:45:45,171 And what if instead of it being in the right hands, 2006 01:45:45,173 --> 01:45:47,273 it was in everyone's hands? 2007 01:45:47,275 --> 01:45:48,841 Everyone in the world. 2008 01:45:50,777 --> 01:45:53,846 We'd be talking about the most tectonic shift in the status quo since-- 2009 01:45:53,848 --> 01:45:55,481 ever. 2010 01:45:55,483 --> 01:45:58,351 I don't know why you've always been interested in my adoption history, 2011 01:45:58,353 --> 01:46:02,388 but you said it's not like someone looked at me and gave me back. 2012 01:46:02,390 --> 01:46:03,956 But that is what happened. 2013 01:46:03,958 --> 01:46:06,058 And you're telling me you have the right computer. 2014 01:46:07,494 --> 01:46:09,862 It's called macintosh. 2015 01:46:09,864 --> 01:46:12,531 A lawyer couple adopted me first, 2016 01:46:12,533 --> 01:46:15,167 then gave me back after a month. 2017 01:46:15,169 --> 01:46:16,802 They changed their mind. 2018 01:46:18,872 --> 01:46:21,507 Then my parents adopted me. 2019 01:46:21,509 --> 01:46:24,210 My biological mother had stipulated that whoever took me 2020 01:46:24,212 --> 01:46:27,646 had to be college-educated, wealthy and catholic. 2021 01:46:27,648 --> 01:46:30,316 Paul and Clara jobs were none of those things, 2022 01:46:30,318 --> 01:46:34,587 so my biological mother wouldn't sign the adoption papers. 2023 01:46:34,589 --> 01:46:35,988 What happened? 2024 01:46:35,990 --> 01:46:39,392 There was a legal battle that went on for a while. 2025 01:46:39,394 --> 01:46:42,728 My mother said she refused to love me for the first year. 2026 01:46:42,730 --> 01:46:44,663 You know, in case they had to give me back. 2027 01:46:44,665 --> 01:46:47,666 You can't refuse to love someone, Steve. 2028 01:46:47,668 --> 01:46:50,503 Yeah, it turns out you can. 2029 01:46:50,505 --> 01:46:54,673 What the hell can a one-month-old do that's so bad his parents give him back? 2030 01:46:54,675 --> 01:46:57,576 Nothing. There's nothing a one-month-old can do-- 2031 01:46:57,578 --> 01:47:00,913 have you ever thought about trying to find your biological father? 2032 01:47:00,915 --> 01:47:02,548 I've met my biological father. 2033 01:47:02,550 --> 01:47:04,083 For that matter, so have you. 2034 01:47:07,187 --> 01:47:08,954 It's called macintosh. 2035 01:47:08,956 --> 01:47:11,557 Mr. Steve Jobs. Jandali. 2036 01:47:11,559 --> 01:47:13,125 Say hello to John sculley. 2037 01:47:13,127 --> 01:47:16,595 Jandali owns the place, and John's the ceo of Pepsi, 2038 01:47:16,597 --> 01:47:20,366 but I'm trying to get him to move to cupertino, put a dent in the universe. 2039 01:47:20,368 --> 01:47:22,101 You eat vegan as well? 2040 01:47:22,103 --> 01:47:23,602 You're kidding me. 2041 01:47:23,604 --> 01:47:25,471 No, I'll eat anything. 2042 01:47:25,473 --> 01:47:29,308 Why don't you start off with the mediterranean lettuce salad with purslane, mint-- 2043 01:47:29,310 --> 01:47:31,710 my sister found him. 2044 01:47:33,213 --> 01:47:35,448 - Does he know? - No. In fact, he bragged to Mona 2045 01:47:35,450 --> 01:47:37,883 that Steve Jobs comes in the restaurant all the time. 2046 01:47:37,885 --> 01:47:40,786 You don't want to-- no. 2047 01:47:40,788 --> 01:47:43,355 Don't you think you should talk to him? 2048 01:47:45,125 --> 01:47:47,326 He'd probably find a reason to sue me. 2049 01:47:48,128 --> 01:47:50,496 Oh, Steve-- 2050 01:47:50,498 --> 01:47:53,632 John, if you're here about your legacy, 2051 01:47:53,634 --> 01:47:55,434 you need to form a line behind wozniak. 2052 01:47:55,436 --> 01:47:57,503 Wozniak's gonna be fine. 2053 01:47:57,505 --> 01:47:59,872 I'm the guy who fired Steve Jobs. 2054 01:48:00,774 --> 01:48:03,943 Rich, college-educated and catholic. 2055 01:48:03,945 --> 01:48:07,713 Steve? It's time. 2056 01:48:11,117 --> 01:48:14,019 I've gotta go. 2057 01:48:16,590 --> 01:48:19,758 Did I do this? Screw it up? 2058 01:48:23,163 --> 01:48:24,763 Let's let it go now. 2059 01:48:26,666 --> 01:48:28,234 Has to be time. 2060 01:48:33,139 --> 01:48:35,241 Come be our ceo. 2061 01:48:36,843 --> 01:48:38,410 Yeah. Okay. 2062 01:48:47,287 --> 01:48:50,689 It was the stylus, John. 2063 01:48:50,691 --> 01:48:54,793 - What? - I killed the Newton because of the stylus. 2064 01:48:54,795 --> 01:48:58,264 If you're holding a stylus, you can't use the other five that are attached to your wrist. 2065 01:49:02,202 --> 01:49:03,903 Things we could have done together. 2066 01:49:09,643 --> 01:49:11,777 God, the things we could've done. 2067 01:49:28,562 --> 01:49:30,162 I'm paying your tuition. 2068 01:49:30,164 --> 01:49:32,398 Are you crazy? Of course I'm paying your tuition. 2069 01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,834 I must have misunderstood you when you said you weren't paying my tuition. 2070 01:49:35,836 --> 01:49:38,404 You and your mom selling the house was a hostile thing to do. 2071 01:49:38,406 --> 01:49:40,172 She needed the money. 2072 01:49:40,174 --> 01:49:41,907 She always needs the money. 2073 01:49:41,909 --> 01:49:46,011 She needs a doctor. She has a sinus infection. 2074 01:49:46,013 --> 01:49:49,848 She's had the same sinus infection since 1988. 2075 01:49:49,850 --> 01:49:53,085 I'm gonna take care of my mother. I'm sorry if that angers you. 2076 01:49:53,087 --> 01:49:54,920 It does anger me, because you're a kid 2077 01:49:54,922 --> 01:49:57,356 and it's not your job to take care of your mother. 2078 01:49:57,358 --> 01:49:59,391 Is that how yours died? 2079 01:49:59,393 --> 01:50:02,428 Guys, step away, please, and give them some room. 2080 01:50:03,430 --> 01:50:06,432 When your mom is 90 and can't feed herself, 2081 01:50:06,434 --> 01:50:07,900 you can take care of her. 2082 01:50:07,902 --> 01:50:13,238 But right now, she's 45, perfectly healthy and can't feed herself. 2083 01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,475 You're supposed to work hard at school and be 19, and that's it. 2084 01:50:16,477 --> 01:50:19,445 I'll take care of your mother. Keep up the good work. 2085 01:50:19,447 --> 01:50:21,947 What the hell do you want from me? I was sent for. 2086 01:50:21,949 --> 01:50:24,617 I bought her a house for $400,000. 2087 01:50:24,619 --> 01:50:26,552 It's worth twice that much today. 2088 01:50:26,554 --> 01:50:28,887 She sold it for two magic rocks and a bowl of soup. 2089 01:50:28,889 --> 01:50:30,422 It was her house. 2090 01:50:30,424 --> 01:50:32,157 She used that money to travel through Europe. 2091 01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:33,959 Money which you make her beg for. 2092 01:50:33,961 --> 01:50:36,128 - Steve-- - don't even start with that. 2093 01:50:36,130 --> 01:50:38,163 Going to Andy and asking for the money? 2094 01:50:38,165 --> 01:50:39,965 That was so off-the-charts over the line-- 2095 01:50:39,967 --> 01:50:41,967 I did not do that. Andy came to me. 2096 01:50:43,303 --> 01:50:46,338 Everybody have an opinion on this? 2097 01:50:46,340 --> 01:50:49,775 I'm sorry, guys. In 30 seconds, you're going to be late. 2098 01:50:49,777 --> 01:50:53,646 She spends the money on antiques and then sells them for a fraction of what she paid, 2099 01:50:53,648 --> 01:50:55,914 and she does it with money i gave to her for you. 2100 01:50:55,916 --> 01:50:57,416 Steve-- 2101 01:50:57,418 --> 01:50:59,284 you came to me hysterical when you were 13, 2102 01:50:59,286 --> 01:51:01,153 asking if you could live with me-- i was not hysterical. 2103 01:51:01,155 --> 01:51:02,821 Because your mom was screaming at you every day. 2104 01:51:02,823 --> 01:51:04,990 Thirteen was the second time i asked you. 2105 01:51:04,992 --> 01:51:06,659 The stress of her life as a spiritual healer. 2106 01:51:06,661 --> 01:51:10,529 I don't believe i said you're a bad guy. But if I did, I'm sorry. 2107 01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,602 Hey. Something happened to you at school, 2108 01:51:16,604 --> 01:51:21,840 some first semester core class that all freshmen are required to take-- 2109 01:51:21,842 --> 01:51:24,677 - I read time. - What? 2110 01:51:24,679 --> 01:51:28,447 I have Internet access at school. I read an old copy of time, 2111 01:51:28,449 --> 01:51:32,184 and I asked my mom some questions about my family history. 2112 01:51:32,186 --> 01:51:33,886 That was-- 2113 01:51:33,888 --> 01:51:36,021 time wrote a mangled piece of journal. 2114 01:51:36,023 --> 01:51:37,523 You were never supposed to read that. 2115 01:51:37,525 --> 01:51:39,892 I had two different Harvard statisticians 2116 01:51:39,894 --> 01:51:42,661 try to reverse-engineer the equation that you came up with 2117 01:51:42,663 --> 01:51:46,365 to prove that 28% of American men could be my father. 2118 01:51:46,367 --> 01:51:47,866 Honey, i-- 2119 01:51:47,868 --> 01:51:51,637 you know, my mother might be a troubled woman, but what's your excuse? 2120 01:51:51,639 --> 01:51:55,140 That's why I'm not impressed with your story, dad. 2121 01:51:55,142 --> 01:51:57,209 It's that you knew what I was going through, 2122 01:51:57,211 --> 01:51:59,178 and you didn't do anything about it, 2123 01:51:59,180 --> 01:52:02,548 and that makes you an unconscionable coward. 2124 01:52:04,551 --> 01:52:06,719 And not for nothing, but "think" is a verb, all right, 2125 01:52:06,721 --> 01:52:08,220 making "different" an adverb. 2126 01:52:08,222 --> 01:52:10,189 You're asking people to think differently. 2127 01:52:10,191 --> 01:52:11,924 And you can talk about the bauhaus movement 2128 01:52:11,926 --> 01:52:13,926 and braun and "simplicity is sophistication" 2129 01:52:13,928 --> 01:52:17,362 and issey miyake uniforms and Bob Dylan lyrics all you want, 2130 01:52:17,364 --> 01:52:21,667 but that thing looks like Judy jetson's easy-bake oven. 2131 01:52:41,254 --> 01:52:42,454 Hey. 2132 01:52:42,456 --> 01:52:44,957 You're gonna start late. 2133 01:52:44,959 --> 01:52:47,226 You know what Lisa stood for? What? 2134 01:52:47,228 --> 01:52:49,461 The computer. The Lisa. You know what it stood for? 2135 01:52:49,463 --> 01:52:52,631 I'm sorry I said that about the iMac. It's not what I really think. 2136 01:52:52,633 --> 01:52:55,200 Behind my back, at the office, you know what it stood for? 2137 01:52:56,636 --> 01:53:00,105 Local integrated system architecture. I was five. 2138 01:53:00,107 --> 01:53:02,441 Why couldn't you just lie? I did. 2139 01:53:03,777 --> 01:53:06,078 Of course it was named after you. 2140 01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,681 Local integrated system architecture doesn't even mean anything. 2141 01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:13,552 Why'd you say it wasn't all those years? 2142 01:53:15,889 --> 01:53:17,456 I honestly don't know. 2143 01:53:20,126 --> 01:53:22,161 Why'd you say you weren't my father? 2144 01:53:25,899 --> 01:53:27,666 I'm poorly made. 2145 01:53:35,608 --> 01:53:38,710 - It's after 9:00. You're gonna be late. - I don't care. 2146 01:53:44,250 --> 01:53:46,351 - You're writing for the crimson. - What? 2147 01:53:46,353 --> 01:53:48,453 The apple chapter of the Harvard alumni association 2148 01:53:48,455 --> 01:53:50,255 tells me you're writing for the crimson. 2149 01:53:50,257 --> 01:53:52,691 Oh. Yeah, a little bit. Essays. 2150 01:53:53,827 --> 01:53:56,795 - I'd like to read one. - Sure. 2151 01:53:56,797 --> 01:53:59,131 No, I mean now. I'd like to read one of your essays now. 2152 01:53:59,133 --> 01:54:01,099 Come on. You've got to go on stage. 2153 01:54:03,169 --> 01:54:06,171 The iMac will not be launched until you give me one of your essays, 2154 01:54:06,173 --> 01:54:09,441 so the world is waiting for you. 2155 01:54:16,516 --> 01:54:19,551 I'm really sorry, guys. 2156 01:54:19,553 --> 01:54:20,719 Good luck. 2157 01:54:33,967 --> 01:54:35,667 I'm gonna put music in your pocket. 2158 01:54:35,669 --> 01:54:37,236 What? 2159 01:54:39,539 --> 01:54:43,742 Hundred songs. A thousand songs. 500 songs. 2160 01:54:43,744 --> 01:54:47,980 Somewhere between 500 and a thousand songs right in your pocket, 2161 01:54:47,982 --> 01:54:51,383 'cause I can't stand looking at that inexplicable walkman anymore. 2162 01:54:51,385 --> 01:54:53,719 You're carrying around a brick playing cassette tape. 2163 01:54:53,721 --> 01:54:55,554 We're not savages. 2164 01:54:55,556 --> 01:54:57,723 So I'm gonna put a thousand songs in your pocket. 2165 01:54:58,758 --> 01:55:01,326 You can do that? Mm-hmm. 2166 01:55:12,072 --> 01:55:13,739 You want to watch from backstage? 2167 01:55:15,675 --> 01:55:17,276 Okay. 2168 01:55:33,761 --> 01:55:34,927 Go cue one. 2169 01:56:33,020 --> 01:56:35,387 You remember that painting you did on the original Mac? 2170 01:56:38,524 --> 01:56:39,825 I do. 2171 01:56:41,661 --> 01:56:43,729 Ladies and gentlemen, 2172 01:56:45,798 --> 01:56:47,399 Steve Jobs. 2173 01:57:28,042 --> 01:57:29,207 Woz. 2174 01:57:32,813 --> 01:57:33,945 Whoo!